+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | DARK FLUFFY PHREAKING BUNNIES - ISSUE 010 | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Released on November 24th, 2000 | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | DFPB does not encourage anyone to do anything useful with their lives. | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ "What kind of phone does a turtle use? A shellular phone. I got that off a popsicle stick." -slurride +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | CONTENTS IN THIS ISSUE | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Introduction.............................................................Arbie Blast From The Past: Greg Carson Returns.................................Arbie Blast From The Past: Tannest Returns.....................................Arbie Blast From The Past: Dino Allsman Returns................................Arbie PLA Meetings.............................................................Arbie What Happened To The PLA Voice Bridge??..................................Arbie E-mail From Cool People!...................................................... +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | INTRODUCTION | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ This should be an interesting issue for anyone who's a dedicated enough loser to know who Greg Carson, Tannest and Dino Allsman is. It seems that everyone from my past is suddenly throwing theirselves into my life again. In Greg Carson's infinite wisdom he recently told me, "Youre past has caut up with you!" and it appears that he's right. +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Blast From The Past: Greg Carson Returns | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ PLA Issue #34 was probably one of the longest issues of PLA because it was nothing more than a huge archive of BBS posts and emails centering around several incidents that happened back in the Summer of 1995 involving the newly developed 'zine called the Phone Losers of America. That issue probably wasn't too interesting to anyone who wasn't personally involved, but if you read it you might remember a character named Greg Carson who also used the alias "The Hit Man." Here's one of his posts from back then. ------ 31/78: come on BABIES Name: The Hit Man #27 Date: Sat Jul 22 12:42:31 1995 You dont Know anything about ME! Before FUCKING with a PRO go look me up I will be waiting with FIREPOWER and wont be the first person I SHOT! yes think what you want BUT I REALLY am CRAZY!!! Ill FUCKING KILL YOU! Open your mouth and put it on the sidewalk and then stomp the back of you head ank kill you! I am laughing at this!! I LOVE IT! COME GET ME I have been BORED for so LONG-Get everybody you can more for my 2 Dogs My rottweiler will love it! SEE YOU BABIES AROUND ----- The whole thing started on a few 618 area BBSes when Greg discovered the world of BBSing through his job at a local hotel. The hotel had a computer and a modem so Greg would dial into BBSes and start shit with everyone for little or no reason. What he didn't expect was retaliation from the PLA. His home phone began to ring, pizzas were sent, ads were placed in the newspaper, his home number changed and what began as a BBS flame war turned into something just slightly out of control. Greg Carson finally did get what he considered to be revenge on me and el_jefe. After a few front page newspaper articles came out on the PLA, the reporter who did the stories figured out who we were and gave Greg Carson what information he had. Greg started driving by el_jefe's home (only 20 or so miles away from him) with friends. He would park his car across the street and talk to his buddies on a CB radio. That finally ended with a brick being thrown through el_jefe's front room window. With me he was a little more creative and I have to commend the guy on a job well done. As me and Colleen made a pitstop in Illinois on our way to Oregon, Greg made a prank call to my parents. The call came around 2am and Greg convinced my dad that I was in jail in Granite City. My parents went to get me only to find out it was a prank. My guess is that Greg & Company were sitting in a car watching the police station and laughing their asses off when my parents showed up. It was more revenge against my parents than me, but you still have to score a few points for Greg. So that was it, the whole thing more or less ended and we all went our separate ways. But then fast forward to 5 years later and Greg suddenly needs me in his life again. Out of nowhere I get this email from him: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 12:42:11 From: joe blank Subject: PLA To: rbcp@phonelosers.org Hey Brad, a few years ago someone called your parents and told them you where in jail. They went down and you where not there. It was midnite and I think you might remember the name "The Regulator" Any of this ring a bell? Just remember Respect is earned not Given I don't remember who the hell "The Regulator" was but of course I remember the prank. A few days later I respond with a friendly email, telling him that I remembered the incident and that if he was responsible then he did a good job at screwing with my parents. I kind of assumed it was Greg from the start because Greg used the same "Respect is earned not Given" quote back in '95. The next day Greg replied and he didn't seem happy with me. He ranted about how I was really in trouble for screwing with him. He started reading off my some of my old personal information, like "So Brad, why did you move from 1013 Kingswood Court in Celina, OH a few years ago? You remember that address right? The one where your phone number was 419-586-?" (I can't even remember our old number in Ohio.) I assume he was trying to scare me by reading off my old LISTED information that was more than two years old. He went on to say that I better keep my kids in the house because he would do something to them if he came by and saw them. I looked at the IP address on the email and it came back to a university in Virginia. I assumed that Greg still lived in Belleville, IL since he'd lived there his whole life. I figure that "Greg" must just be a disgruntled PLA fan, trying to impersonate Greg Carson to stir things up. So I stop responding to the emails for awhile and they eventually stop. All the IP addresses continue to point to this university in Virginia. Weeks after the first email I get a couple emails from some guy which I later learn is actually Greg Carson trying to get me to harass somebody he doesn't like. (I'm assuming this.) Here are the two emails. I didn't respond to either one of them, just forwarded them to the PLA_UPL discussion list for everyone else to laugh at. Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:51:51 EDT From: DelpozoD@aol.com Subject: bitch To: Hello RBCP, I read your PLA files and I beleive you think you are something special. What could you do to me? My SSN is-602-xx-9454 ohhh yeah what could you do with my account number 012110598 at First national bank of Texas(routing nubmer is 111xx6271) well your mom is a whore and I will kill your 2 kids-that should help you be mad at me. Show me what you can do Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:58:12 EDT From: DelpozoD@aol.com Subject: bitch To: RBCP Did you understand me? My name is Ricardo M Del Pozo and my birth date is 7-xx-1974 ssn 602-xx-9454 even my bank account is 012110598 with the routing is 111xx6271 WEll whats up, I guess you should buy some black clothes for all the funerals you are going to go to. I am a gay homo too-if thats makes your day In October two things happen - Greg starts sending threatening emails again and I suddenly start getting a lot of credit cards in the mail. I get a lot of letters of denial from credit card companies and I get a few actual cards too. This is another clue that Greg is behind the whole thing because he started filling out credit applications for me in 1995 during the original incident. Also all the applications are to Brad K. Carter - Greg somehow got the idea a long time ago that my middle initial was K. when it's actually A. Greg is the only one who ever makes this mistake. We received a lot more emails than I'm printing here, but usually I'd print the emails out and delete them. Most of them were direct threats against my kids. Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 10:47:21 -0700 (PDT) From: joe blank Subject: DIE To: RBCP@phonelosers.org KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 10:48:46 -0700 (PDT) From: joe blank Subject: Hear To: rbcp@phonelosers.org Do you hear me during the night? I am waiting to KILL Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 11:30:55 -0700 (PDT) From: joe blank Subject: mail To: rbcp@phonelosers.org Brad, Have you been getting alot of mail? I bet you have been declined for credit too. I hope your family dies and you live! I am so funny!! Your family has been marked for DEATH Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 21:15:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Arbie Reply-to: rbcp@phonelosers.org Subject: Re: mail To: joe blank > Have you been getting alot of mail? I bet you have > been declined for credit too. I hope your family dies > and you live! > I am so funny!! Your family has been marked for DEATH Hey, it's been a long time. It looks like you finally figured out how to click on that "Spell Check" button when sending your Yahoo messages because your email was free of spelling mistakes this time. Well that's not entirely true, "alot" is not a word but I suppose Yahoo just didn't pick that one up for you. I swear, you really should think about getting a refund on those college courses because they're just not working for you. Apparently your quest on ruining my credit isn't going too good. You've resulted in getting me 3 credit cards and a few letters of denial either because I already had the card or because of too many recent credit requests. I canceled two of the cards I got (high interest, yearly fees) and I'm keeping the $500 limit one to buy things that I don't intend to keep. That way I'm not laying out cash to stores when I buy computer junk that I know I'll just return in a few weeks. As far as being turned down for credit, nope that hasn't happened yet. In fact just 2 months ago we were approved for a home loan to buy the house that we're currently renting. You see, when companies check your credit rating they judge you by points and by how much debt you owe. I don't owe any debt except some small credit card balances and my points currently total over 800 with each of the three major credit bureaus giving me a grand total of over 2,400 when run on a combined report. So you're going to have to put a lot more effort into filling out those forms than you're doing now. And while you're putting all your time and energy into filling out forms trying to ruin me, I'll be living my life as I always do, working, going to movies, traveling, playing with the kids, being with the wife. (I have to do that now since you're going to come out and kill them soon, you know.) I won't be cowering in fear next to the mailbox everyday, dreading all of those credit card denial letters that are going to show up. And let's assume you DO succeed in ruining my credit! We own a house, we own two fairly nice automobiles (nicer than a '79 Oldsmobile or '89 Camaro anyway), we have an incredibly high limit at several St. Louis area furniture stores, we both have stable employment and you've even given me an extra $500 credit card. So exactly what is ruining my credit going to do to us? Nothing. Because now that the whole home loan thing is overwith there's nothing for us to apply for. Who looks stupider? In my personal opinion it's the guy who's going to be 27 years old in less than two months and is running around filling out credit apps thinking that he's really doing something clever. So keep filling out those forms and remember that we're laughing about it too. By this time I've done a little research on Greg and I have a huge file on him. I've found out what cars he's owned in the past, his social security number, birthdate and a bunch of old addresses he'd live at in the past. I started researching each address, getting the unlisted numbers at those addresses and asking the people there if they knew Greg. I got a few leads but nothing that really helped. I finally found out that he had gotten divorced from his wife Carolyn that we knew from 1995. I ended up finding her unlisted number and gave her a call. I introduced myself and she remembered me. After a little apologizing for things that had happened in the past, she was more than happy to tell me everything she knew about Greg. Unfortunately she really didn't know too much about him. She told me that he had recently remarried, his wife was pregnant and in the military. She said Greg was a full-time student at VSU but I checked with VSU and they didn't have any records on Greg. I think the only connection Greg had with VSU was that he used the library terminals there to send me emails. Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:04:37 -0700 (PDT) From: joe blank Subject: Interesting To: rbcp@phonelosers.org I thought you were a BIG BAD ASS. All you have done was write me a huge message full of nothing of interest to me. I dont think I will be 27-but your 27 and turning 28 in November right. Happy Birthday Brad (November 7th if my information is right) I really dont care about how good or how bad your life is going. I am a loser-you are a phoneloser Why would you even respond if you didnt care? I thought when I messed with the BIG RBCP bad things were to happen to me. You are as stupid and easy to mess with as all the people you have messed with. Good luck with your house. I am so impressed by what you have. What is the possibility of a person getting a job that pays $8.00 an hour? Pretty good I would say. WEll if both parents have a crap job paying $8.00 an hour, that would mean they would be earning over 30,000 a year. They could have 2 brand new cars, a house they own worth from $65,000 and up. Anyone can have a house and 2 cars-if you are telling me you wanted and have the American Dream- what is your website and remembering you past all about? I thought you were a REBEL, out to get everybody that opposed you. Are you really RBCP or was he just a fake? I am going to go now- I will not be laughing at you. Like I said before you are a piece of work. Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 09:59:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Arbie Reply-to: rbcp@phonelosers.org Subject: Re: Interesting To: joe blank > your 27 and turning 28 in November right. Happy > Birthday Brad(November 7th if my information is right) OH MY GOD YOU KNOW MY BIRTHDAY!@#$@% I'M REALLY FREAKED OUT NOW#$&!@%#!%& HOW DID YOU GET THAT????????? > Good luck with your house. I am so impressed by what > you have. > What is the possibility of a person getting a job that > pays $8.00 an hour? Pretty good I would say. WEll if My intention was not to brag about what I own and what I have - you asked me whether I'd been turned down for credit or not and I explained to you (in very lengthy detail) that we probably won't have any reason to apply for credit anytime soon. I'll try to use smaller words the next time I explain something so you'll understand. My email to you was pretty straightforward, I don't see how you could misinterpret it as bragging. Anyway I gotta go, I hope you have another fun filled & productive weekend filling out credit apps. for people. Don't stick around those library terminals too long! Richard Barfield, the network manager at VSU gave me a number to call whenever I get your emails and said they could have someone up there within a few minutes of my call. Woo! Finally I manage to get Greg's home phone number. I check a few of Greg's old addresses and end up finding Greg's dad. I give him a call and say I'm an old friend trying to contact him and want to know if I can get his number. Greg's dad says he is still in contact with Greg but he won't give me Greg's number. So I call Ameritech, impersonate his dad and check his long distance records. There are a few calls to Virginia so I write down the numbers and give them a call. A guy answers and I ask for Greg. "This is Greg," he says. I tell him I was just calling to confirm and hang up. The next day I call Verizon and take a look at Greg's account. It turns out that the service is in his wife's name which is Jamie but the last name is different so I think it's possible that "Jamie" could be a roommate or something. I try to call a few times to see if I can talk to Jamie but I never get an answer. Later that night me, Colleen and EvilCal are walking around in St. Louis looking for something to do. We end up going out to eat at Planet Hollywood and while waiting for our food I decide to try Greg's number again. I use my cell and call through a divertor so they can't *57 me - a lady answers the phone! HER: Hello? ME: Jamie? HER: Yeah? ME: Jamie Carson?? HER: (after a pause) Yeeeah? At this point I've confirmed that Jamie is his wife so I don't really care where the conversation goes. ME: Hey Jamie, this is Brad Carter. Could I talk to Greg? HER: He's not here tonight. ME: Oh, that's too bad because I was really hoping to talk to him. He's been sending me a bunch of emails and I really wanted to talk to him about it. So how's the pregnancy going Jamie? HER: (stammering) Uh. (she says to somebody in the background "How the hell does he know I'm pregnant??) How do you know that?? ME: Look just tell Greg that I'm really interested in talking with him. I've gotta eat my fries now! *click* About an hour later we're standing outside Banana Joe's nightclub and I convince EvilCal that he should talk to Jamie for me. I dial her number again and throw the phone at EvilCal. His call was hilarious but I only caught part of the conversation. He used a VERY gay voice and introduced himself as a friend of mine. He explained that Greg had been sending me me emails, blah blah blah. At one point he said something that cracked me up - "Well your man is messing with my man. And I don't like people messing with MY man. And I just may have to get some of my men to mess back with your man." Or something like that. He finally finished the call and that was the end of them that night. Throughout the weekend I try to call Greg but nobody would answer. Finally early Tuesday morning (around 7:30 EST) Greg answers the phone. HIM: Hello? ME: Greg? HIM: Yeah? ME: This is Brad. I want to talk to you for a few minutes if that's okay. HIM: (he dials a bunch of touch tones and just sits there.) ME: Heh, what was that? You supposed to be tracing my call or something? HIM: *click* I call back again and when he says hello I tell him I'm Brad and he presses a bunch of tones again and hangs up. We repeat this process several times. I finally give up for awhile. Then 30 minutes later I call back and he answers. This time I manage to say, "Greg, I just want to talk okay?" before he tones at me and hangs up. It's unbelievable to me that he appears to be afraid to talk to me after his cocky attitude in those emails and I start to wonder if maybe Greg wasn't entirely responsible for the things that had been happening. All I want to do is talk to him and end the whole thing. Later that evening I call him again. He answers, I tell him who I am, he presses a bunch of tones and he hangs up. We repeat. On the 3rd try I don't hang up the phone and just sit there. A second later he picks up the phone and I snicker as I hear him dial *57. He sits there and I say, "Hi Greg, this is Brad from Verizon. You trying to trace a call?" He slams the phone down, tries to pick it up again, hears me say "Hi again, Greg" and slams it down again. I decide to try calling just one more time before giving up for the day and this time Jamie answers! HER: Hello? ME: Jamie! Don't hang up, this is Brad. All I want to do is talk to Greg for a few minutes and get this whole thing straightened out. HER: Well... I don't think Greg is willing to talk to you right now. I can talk to you if you want. Me and Jamie start to talk and I begin by apologizing to her for the prank calls we made to her that weekend. At one point she covers the mouthpiece and says something to Greg that sounds like, "Well if you're not going to talk to him then I am!" A few seconds later we're talking and her line goes dead so I have to call back. I didn't ask but I assume that Greg pulled the phone jack from the wall to keep her from talking with me. It really cracks me up that Greg was so afraid to talk with me. I always pictured him as a confrontational person, always ready to pick a fight with someone. I thought he would be more than willing to talk to me but would just yell and threaten me a lot. So I'm guessing that Greg assumed that sending those emails from an "anonymous" library terminal would prevent any consequences from happening. He must have shit himself when I first called, judging from his reaction to me on the phone. Jamie and I talked for about 20 minutes. It turns out that yesterday Greg told Jamie (after I called and said "just confirming to him") that some guys may be calling their house and explained a little to her about the his past with us. She told me that Greg is really sensitive and upset about this happening and apparently he was just surfing the net and happened across my site and decided to starting screwing with us. I explained to her that the emails sent to me about my kids were either sent by a boy who didn't know any better or by a very sick man. (I'm sure Greg sugar-coated his side of the story.) She also told me that she took our phone calls as a threat and had called the local authorities on us. (Buahaha, local authorities.) The way Jamie talked, I felt like I must be talking to Greg Carson's mom or something. Jamie assured me that Greg would never email me or try to screw with my credit again. This reminds me of the time (back in '95) that he got pissed off at Martini and had his WIFE call her and threaten her. So that ends the 2nd chapter of the Greg Carson/Hit Man story. But really, I doubt this is far from over. Here's my prediction - 5 or 10 years from now Greg will be divorced from Jamie. Carolyn Carson (his ex-wife) told me that they had a very unhappy and untrusting marriage and she was glad to have him out of her life - she even got rid of the Carson name and went back to using her maiden name. And Jamie was completely clueless to all of this so it's pretty obvious that Greg isn't being very honest or upfront with her which is the kind of thing that is sure to doom a marriage. Once he's divorced again he'll probably move and think there's no way in the world I could ever find him again. Then it'll start all over again. So look for a Greg Carson update in Peachey #312! +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Blast From The Past: Tannest Returns | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Tannest is one lady that just won't go away. Everytime I forget about her she suddenly pops up in my email box, asking me questions or saying hi or whatever. This has been going on for years now. I guess I kind of started it this time though because I visited a web site that Tannest does work for. It all started when Spessa told me that she was bored and did a search for "Samantha Dahl" (Tannest's real name) and came up with a couple web sites. One was www.samanthadahl.com which was her personal homepage with a bio, pictures, resume, etc. The other was www.bend.com which was a community web page for Bend, Oregon. I looked through her home page and then started to check out bend.com. To get the full effect of the bend.com site I signed up for an account so I could see everything on it. There's a bunch of posts from Tannest but nothing all that interesting so I leave the site probably never to return again. Less than 12 hours later I get an email from Tannest. Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 12:38:30 -0700 (PDT) To: Subject: Time From: "Samantha Dahl" Hello... I see you discovered my site. What do you think? You probably use Netscape so it was probably a little lame for you on some pages. It certainly has a lot of bugs still to be worked out. Eventually it is going to have a lot of pretty cool things. I used the word time in the subject because I didn't know what else to say and it has been a long time. You know, it's been longer now that I have been off IRC than I was ever on there... It's been so long and seems so far away that it is hard to remember all that for me really. Okay, I will just get to why I am writing. Your name on the site got me to thinking about the whole thing again and I really, really would like you to please remove the pages you have about me with my kids names on them. I hope as a parent yourself you can understand my angst at thinking my kids are on there like that. They are totally innocent in all of this and you have to see that it is unfair for them to be the ones hurt by whatever war there was between you and I. I'd be lying if I said the whole thing isn't really still embarrassing to me but the main reason I am asking you to remove it is for my children's sake. The last thing I want to do is start anything back up here so please understand that. I just hope you can agree that it has been a very long time and whatever purpose the page was put up for worked... I hope you will think about this. Sam Then after this I got a bizzare email from her just a few minutes later which is below. Apparently she recently went on a rampage, doing searches on herself and emailing the webmasters of every page begging them to take down any links or information they had up on her. I'm not sure who this email is from and apparently Tannest isn't either. Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 12:41:09 To: Subject: Fw: hi there tannest From: "Samantha Dahl" ----- Original Message ----- From: monk@9mm.com Sent: October 23, 2000 11:28 am Do me a favor, don't mail search engines to try to get the PLA page removed, it won't happen. Maybe you shoudld't have gotten on irc in the first place and fucked up your life! (RBCP- I received this email this morning after emailing Google and asking them to remove their listing in their search for the page with my kid's names on it. I certainly was not trying to get the PLA main page removed. I do not know how this person got involved but again, the only request was for the listing of the individual listings they have when my name is entered to be removed from their search. I don't know if this makes sense, I thought it was you or something but anyway... -Sam) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 21:10:58 From: Arbie Subject: Re: Time To: Samantha Dahl > I see you discovered my site. What do you think? You probably > use Netscape so it was probably a little lame for you on some > pages. It certainly has a lot of bugs still to be worked out. > Eventually it is going to have a lot of pretty cool things. I'm not sure if you're referring to bend.com or samanthadahl.com. Your homepage was a little dull (no offense) but bend.com ruled. Are you the primary webmaster of that? Do you write all the cgi stuff yourself or is it some kind of program you paid for and customized? Whatever it is, it's cool. And the layout of the whole site is great. > Your name on the site got me to thinking about the whole thing > again and I really, really would like you to please remove the > pages you have about me with my kids names on them. I hope as a > parent yourself you can understand my angst at thinking my kids > are on there like that. They are totally innocent in all of this > and you have to see that it is unfair for them to be the ones > hurt by whatever war there was between you and I. I'm wondering where you're still seeing any of your information still up on my web sites. I had thought I took down any text files relating to you over a year ago. I really don't think you should worry about the text causing any problems in your family, most of it really is outdated and is probably only read by a few teens now and then who don't even know the whole BNF-PLA story. But if you still see it somewhere I'd like to know where it is. As far as that email you received that you forwarded to me - I'm probably even more confused than you are. My guess is that it's some webmaster from a PLA state site. There's over 100 of them so I guess I don't recognize the guy's name/email address. Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:44:18 To: Subject: Re: Time From: "Samantha Dahl" Thanks for the reply. I really appreciated it. I haven't heard from monk@9mm.com since I cc'd the last thing to you I sent to him. My thinking is he works for Google? I had to laugh about your saying samanthadahl.com was lame. :) It really is, I'm not very enthused about a personal web page anymore... For months it was absolutely nothing at all besides the name. bend.com, I really am more like the "forum monitor". I didn't do any of the programming at all, we have four people who work on that full time. I just lurk around on it and go out and talk to people and take pictures and stuff like that. Answer email, etc... The stuff that is still on your site about my family that I am asking you to remove is in /conf/ or something like that. tannest.txt Of course it would be nice to have the pictures removed (though the transsexual on the phone was always nice)but I know those probably do evoke a laugh or two still... The thing is... When you go to Google or almost any of the search engines these pages come up if you enter my daughter's name. This really freaks me out, she doesn't deserve to pay for my stupidity. I am asking you to please think about at least removing my children's names from your pages. Thanks again for your reply. Sam It turns out that when you go to google.com and type in her daughter's name, it takes you to the picture of Tannest with her boobs hanging out along with all her personal information. My guess is that her daughter (who is 14 now) must have searched for her own name, discovered the picture of her mom flashing her boobs and asked her mom about it. After Tannest emailed me she decided to email LogicBox to ask about that weird email she had gotten earlier. And then he forwarded the email he got from her to me. Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:11:24 From: "Ryan C. Scott" To: RedBoxChiliPepper Subject: TANNEST! Hey, Tannest e-mailed me whining and bitching at me to get some guy I've never even heard of to stop bothering her, since apparently I'm responsible for everything that goes wrong in her life. I haven't replied to her, but she sent me mail saying that "RBCP was at least polite enough to reply," you polite person you. What all did she have to say to you anyway? :) --Ryan C. Scott (logic@geekbox.net) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:40:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Samantha Dahl To: logic@geekbox.net Subject: Hello Hey... For some reason, your friend or associate, monk@9mm.com has decided to make it his life's mission to terrorize me. He claims he is doing this because, "I should not have pissed off PLA". As you know, it has now been a longer period of time since I have been off IRC and all that than I was ever even on it in the first place. I think that for what it is worth, whatever "debt" I owe for angering "PLA" has long been paid. I am writing to ask you to please explain this to monk@9mm.com. I would really like closure to this horrible experience. I don't deserve this Ryan and you know it as well as I do. I have also written to RBCP, who I see logged on to bend.com yesterday and asked him to remove his pages that have my children's name on them. I am also trying to get the various search engines to stop listing those pages when my name is entered in their searches. None of this is to stir things up I am just concerned about my kids. It was a hard decision to write RBCP I hope it wasn't a totally stupid one. I know I made you mad the last time we spoke when I said if you were a good person you would ask RBCP to take the pages down. You have to understand my feelings about this. Scarlett is 14 now and she did not ever do anything to deserve having those pages come up when her name is entered in a search on the Net. I hope you're good and school is going well for you. Sam Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 14:30:07 From: Arbie Subject: Re: Time To: Samantha Dahl > Thanks for the reply. I really appreciated it. I haven't heard > from monk@9mm.com since I cc'd the last thing to you I sent to > him. My thinking is he works for Google? I know exactly who he is and I don't see why it's so hard for you to remember who he is. > bend.com, I really am more like the "forum monitor". I didn't do > any of the programming at all, we have four people who work on > that full time. I just lurk around on it and go out and talk to > people and take pictures and stuff like that. Answer email, > etc... Thanks for that info. I like what you did with thatonegirl.com, I hope it doesn't get hacked again and end up in a bunch of archives. > The stuff that is still on your site about my family that I am > asking you to remove is in /conf/ or something like that. > tannest.txt I've told you before, that is a private directory and there is no reason for you to be looking in there. Maybe I'll move the directory or something so you'll stop going in there. If it bothers you so much then you should just stay out of there. > Of course it would be nice to have the pictures removed (though > the transsexual on the phone was always nice)but I know those > probably do evoke a laugh or two still... > The thing is... When you go to Google or almost any of the search > engines these pages come up if you enter my daughter's name. > This really freaks me out, she doesn't deserve to pay for my > stupidity. I am asking you to please think about at least > removing my children's names from your pages. "You should learn to spell Dr. Seuss, you owe that to your imbecile child. I see you consistently misspell it through out your lame assed page." Do you remember writing this to me? You think I should really care about what you want me to do when you're going around calling my daughter an imbecile? You called a 3 year old girl an imbecile, I bet you feel pretty smart doing that. Just like when you were telling Logicbox (then 14 or 15, right?) to kill himself. How is having your daughter's name listed in some text file bothering you? My guess is that your daughter searched for her own name and it brought up the hacked web page with her mom's droopy boob picture on dis.org and antionline.com so you've been emailing the webmasters trying to get it taken down from everywhere. I hope you email me back. Me, Colleen, Spessa and LogicBox have been having a pretty good laugh these past 24 hours with the emails we've been getting from you. Just like how we all were laughing our asses off when you thought you were confiding in Spessa about the BNF stuff when it was her making most of the posts about you. You know, she really liked you and considered you a good friend until you pulled that shit with Ryan. Write back! Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:55:17 To: Subject: Re: Time From: "Samantha Dahl" You should try living in the present. Thanks anyway. Wow, she told me a thing or two! The night she wrote me I decided to see if she still had anything up on thatonegirl.com (her old webpage domain) only to find out that the registration had just expired and it was available! So I registered the domain through namedemo.com and pointed it to my own webpage. By the time I got around to writing her, namedemo.com already had it up for me so I mentioned it to her in that email. For now that's the end of Tannest but she'll be back. She'll get upset that we're not paying enough attention to her and start emailing us again. She'll have another lame excuse and ask for some kind of favor again. Until then, if you're bored do a few web searches through various search engines for "Tannest" or "Samantha Dahl" to see what comes up. There's some really entertaining stuff out there! If you want to talk to her, join the bend.com community and say "hi" to Samantha! +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Blast From The Past: Dino Allsman Returns | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ The Dino Incident occured in early 1995 and the whole story can be viewed at http://www.phonelosers.org/issue/pla014.html. In the past 6 years since we first met Dino I've recieved a constant flow of email regarding him and his current whereabouts. I never really called up Dino myself again but I ended up on a few conferences where other people called his house and messed with him a little. Usually we'd just get a machine though. Sometime in mid-1998 we found out that Dino worked at the Alton Telegraph (local paper) stuffing advertisments into papers. In the summer of 1998 I moved back into the East Alton area so I was able to occasionally drive down Dino's street on my way to wherever I was going. In late 1998 Dino and his wife moved from the house I knew them from. They moved 2 blocks away and into Shana's old house (where she grew up). The house is a perfect match for the stereotypical Dino we all know - there's a "Beware of Dog" sign on the front gate although I've never seen a dog in their yard. Their house number is SPRAYPAINTED on one of the front windows - I guess spending a couple dollars on real lettering was just too much trouble. You can even find a rusty old car or van in the yard from time to time. During Halloween of 1999 we actually took our daughter trick or treating at Dino's house. EvilCal was up from Texas for a visit and we were driving into random neighborhoods in East Alton to let Emily beg for candy. We ended up on Dino's street and noticed his light on so we couldn't resist. Of course I cowered in the street as I sent my 3-year-old daughter up to meet Dino, then we continued on to other houses on Dino's street. But recently (around August 2000 or so) Dino managed to find himself on the web. It turns out that his uncle stumbled across the Dino story, recognized Dino as a relative, printed out the whole story and gave it to Dino. Dino showed up at my parent's door one night around 10pm, printout in hand. I wasn't there so I just got a breakdown of the story from my dad. He said Dino was mad as hell, said that my phone calls were the reason he divorced Shana and that he would be serving papers to have me sued soon. My dad said something along the lines of, "Go ahead and serve papers, my son is nearly 30 years old and hasn't lived at this address in almost a decade." I'd never told my dad about the Dino incident so after he told me about his Dino encounter I let him in on the story. My dad said he remembered Dino from when he lived by the church - said that Dino used to tear down the alley in his car at 90MPH and that he'd always hear Dino screaming at his wife for one reason or another. Yeah, and we're supposed to believe that a few prank calls were the reason he divorced his wife. So now I'm just waiting for Dino to try and sue me for a few prank calls me and el_jefe made 6 years ago. That should be a really interesting trial! +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | PLA Meetings | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ If you're a frequent visitor to phonelosers.org you might notice our most recent addition to the page - PLA Meetings! I completely stole the idea from 2600 of course. Well not really. Ever since I started the PLA State Sites people have been telling me that I should start monthly meetings for PLA. "Go to your 2600 meeting!" I would suggest. I would usually get several of these emails per month and 3 years later I've finally caved in and started a section on the site for meetings. phonelosers.org/meetings.html If YOU want to start a PLA meeting, just go to that URL and submit your meeting information. You can make the meeting quarterly, monthly or even weekly. The only requirement is that your PLA meeting doesn't clash with the existing 2600 meetings unless you're going to hold it at the same time and place as your local 2600 meeting which wouldn't completely defeat the purpose of a PLA meeting anyway. So our meetings are mainly for the people who can't make it to 2600 meetings, either because it's too far of a drive or because it's on an inconvenient day. Stupidly I asked people on the UPL/PLA list for any help or suggestions with the meetings. Here's a few of the replies I received: "We can get as many freinds as we can and hold PLA meetings, where we train them to be PLA salepersons.. and they will recruit more PLA salepersons, selling quality PLA products door-to-door. Every third tuesday of the month we can get together and compare sales statistics and discuss ways to sell quality PLA merchandise more effectively." -Jacob "Don't forget the part where we kill the avon ladies. And the mormons. And jehovas witnesses. All the pricks who come door to door and try to sell me makeup and religion. And magazine subscriptions.. and cookies. damn cookies. They took away all the good ones. Bastards." -Orion "I think we should make a new religion, gerbilizm, we can pray to roy, roy built the world in 3 days which is a lot faster than god...thats why roy's better, roy brings us light... light..from a flashlight..he's stupendous that roy is. p.s. i have socks." -NEONMAGE "Yeah, I will lead the "Aggressive Marketing" and the "Competition Passification" squads, which will be and do the following: A.M. Squads: Roving bands of punks with baseball bats, and other crude melee weapons. They convince people to buy PLA stuff. C.P. Squads: A force of 500 angry teenagers, who break into units of 5. Unit Composition: Leader Ninja Sword and Desert Eagle A few blocks of C-4 and some detonators 2 Heavy Machine Gunners M-60 with Grenade launcher on it 3 Ass-kicking SAS wannabes Aerosol Cans w/ Lighters Crossbows Ninja Darts Atomic Cherry Bombs Red Boxes Little Laser Watches from 007 They go and destroy the Jehovas, Mormons, Girl Scouts, and any other wack mothers who try to get into our profits. This is highly illegal, but the PLA is already a secret power inside congress. RBCP has a cousin who has a friend who has a half-brother who is an attendant in a congress bathroom. Im sure that the legislation can be bribed!" -SniperVIII +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | What Happened To The PLA Voice Bridge?? | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ A few months ago third worm asked me what happened to the PLA Voice Bridge. I figured there must be at least a few other people wondering the same thing so I'm going to reply to that question here in Peachey #10. The whole voice bridge idea fell through very quickly. I was pretty excited about finally getting one but I should have waited before I bothered to promote it. It started out great - the guy who ran it set up a welcome message saying "you've reached the pla/upl voice bridge" blah blah blah. But only one person could talk on it at a time, defeating the whole purpose. A lot of people could call in at once, but if they went into the chat rooms they wouldn't be able to talk to each other. So the owner gave us a new number and promised the problem would be taken care of. But then after two people got on, if a THIRD person called in they would reach some kind of "Hollywood Hottub" phone sex line instead of the PLA bridge. So that sucked. I complained but they said they couldn't fix the problem. Since I didn't want to advertise a phone line that took people into a phone sex room instead of the PLA/UPL voicebridge, I took down any links I had to it. A few weeks later I called the bridge and it said something like, "Welcome to the Internet Zoo Voice Bridge" so I emailed the guy to ask what happened to it. He said he changed the name because I wasn't bringing in any traffic for him so he wanted to appeal to a broader range of people. I told him I hadn't been promoting the bridge because it was broken. And that's the last I heard from him. Hopefully I'll find a replacement someday. It'd be really great to get one set up like the old Defcon Voice Bridge where I could customize all the prompts in a loserish fashion. If anyone reading this knows of a service who would let us set up a bridge, please get in touch with me! The old bridge URL is listed below, you can try it out for any updates that may occur but for now it doesn't look very promising. http://www.phonelosers.org/bridge.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Email From Cool People! | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ I'm too lazy to answer email this time. So maybe YOU can reply to these. From: "chambers" To: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 05:45:54 -0800 sup, I was just curious as to how you stay out of jail after getting busted makng these calls. Or, how you mask your number. And, when was the last time you updated the site PO From: "C.J. Shull" To: Subject: Intresting Sounds Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 23:17:16 -0600 Hey, hows it going. I was doing some phreaking from my phone here, and low and behold i typed my usual favorite 3 digits and continued on to the other 4, the number i typed in was 284, then i followed it with 7847, waited and i almost lost my hearing from the resulting tone, it sounds like a motorcycle or something, it loops, it goes from low pitch, gradually to a very high pitch, and then back to low, pretty intresting, i dont know what the hell it is, and i was looking at my phone one night and i came up with the alphanumeric as B-U-G-R-U-G-S, what the hell is bugrugs RBCP? something i dont know? try calling it from your local, 1-817-284-7847 or 1-817-BUGRUGS =] From: "tlx5000" To: Subject: re: cool calls! Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 02:24:19 -0700 i read about you back in the bbs days right before the internet swept everyone up. i think it was in 95/96 when i heard of your phone adventures, at any rate i thought you'd be the last to get a website, but it's good to know that not everyone that was just a handle back then can and in some cases are doing well. i was just thinking if TBS wants to do another movie on silicon valley and the computer scene they should do one on you and your travels. i'm getting kind of tired of these overly done movies that have absolutely nothing but 1% of computer truth in them or historical relevance.. (off i ramble)... at any rate, your calls kept me laughing for the longest, and it's good to know you're doing well and not locked up like another mitnick or something. take care! -matt From: "Faithy Lomax" To: rbcp@phonelosers.org Subject: partylines Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 11:21:33 EST yes i was wondering if you knew how to phreak partylines because the bill is to high when i say phreak i mean is there anyway i can call them and dont have to pay the long distance rates i already tried using the operator but it didnt work please help me thank you From: "Uncle Ham" To: rbcp@phonelosers.org Subject: How to piss off those pesky Census Enumerators Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 16:49:17 GMT Being the "dedicated" Enumerator I am, I will explain what annoys us the most. First of all, give the 1 person who owns/rents the "unit", next give the names of a few imaginary people. We must take your word for EVERYTHING (even if you say a six year old is your wife). Mumble all answers incoherently and act mad if we don't understand. Call the cops complaining of strange people and/or cars giving full discriptions. Make a sexual proposition to the enumerator, this always ends up being a lose-lose situation for the Census Bureau if legal action is taken. The thing that is most annoying is guys who only say "All you need to know is 2 people live here, I plead the fifth on the rest" like the fifth amendment has anything to do with the census. Catch the Enumerator as they approach a neighbors and use yourself as a knowledgeable respondent. And always insist you sent it in, that annoys us because people think that saying that will get them out of it when it means crap (and they won't drop it), If you sent it in ON TIME it would be X'ed out in our book. And at the end of every interview say I forgot about such-and-such and whats-his-name was in a correctional facility. Remember Enumerators are just doing there job and the longer it takes them to fill out a questionairre the more money Uncle Sam loses to these kind people. From: "David Khalili" To: rbcp@phonelosers.org Subject: acoustic modems Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 01:13:35 PDT hello there redbox, I have a nice pleasant little question for you...where might I be able to get my grubby little hands on an acoustic modem, Please let me know whenevr possible. Just to let you know. I used to frequent your site around 1994-97 and then I seemed to turn my interests elsewhere for a while. Now that I am interested in such topics I am extremely glad you guys are still going on. Keep up the good work! Khalili From: "CybeR" To: Subject: red box Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 12:15:20 -0700 hey, whats up? i have just made this beautiful red box. i made it from the pocket tone dialer #43-146 and the crystal that is 6.50 mhz. and somehow it doesnt work. i mean i can hear the tones they are higher then before, but when i go to the payphone it just doesnt do the trick. i live in chicago, iliinois. is it possible that they made the phones here phreak proof??? o and 1 more thing the phone that i used and that didnt work was from ameritech. could u please tell me what did i do wrong? maybe it is the wrong crystal??? please help. ~lsd_25~ Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 03:09:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "Grandmaster Ratte'" To: rbcp@phonelosers.org Subject: phreaking bunniez Hey, checking your site out, digging the Phreaking Bunnies... I think it's a really positive thing to encourage happy springtime dealz as opposed to all this neo-goth Crow/Matrix/blah blah crap you see all over the place. The new cDc site we're working on has a "10 year old girl possessed by Satan" vibe so it's all My Lil' Pony getting fucked up the ass by demons and whatnot. I'd like to send you some cDc and Open Cola PR from my Medium PR Death Squad acct. if that's cool here in a bit. Then I'd like to go to sleep. Are you planning on making it out to Defcon and/or HOPE this year? take care, G. Ratte'/cDc From: Drazuw@aol.com Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 03:24:47 EDT Subject: site stuff To: rbcp@phonelosers.org Hey...just wanted to say that i like your site. And what yall did to that peachy girl was fucking hilarious..couldnt stop laughing when reading those logs... jon Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 03:26:25 -0400 Subject: Introducing myself to arbie From: "SniperVIII" To: brad_the_carter@yahoo.com Or would that be Mr. Arbie? I dunno what to call you. I must admit that your real name sounds so dull. Brad Carter? Do you want people to think that you are related to somebody who was a peanut farmer? Even worse, a peanut farmer turned president?! I mean, peanut farmer is bad enough, but president? Well, whatever. My real name is Kris Biesele. I suppose withdrawing my name is somewhat useless as it is easy to find out where I live from even less than that. And I suppose I can trust you, to a point. If you do happen to waste the time to find where I live, call me. Just do it before the 17th of july, as I will be more hard to find after which. Kudos to you if you are insane enough to waste the time to find out which summer camp I will be in. I suppose that with all the supposing I should look for a new verb. Thus I shall assume that with the general baseline knowledge of each other laid down, I can now say that I am probably one of your greatest fans. This must make me a really sad lifeform, because I can ask anyone on the street who RBCP is, and have a 1 in 10000 chance of somebody replying with a correct answer. But I am proud to say that at least I am not a fan of some financially modeled superstar MTV type. I would prefer to be a fan of yours rather than some dipshit like Kid Rock, or any of the other assorted fools. Mind you that I have read all of your PLA shyt, even the stuff that you didn't put in, like that wierd shit about the zoophilia, which was really interesting. Not in the technical aspects, but in the aspect of realisation that there are people who actually do that kind of shit. I have learned a lot. Even though I never have used a red box, or even the beige, I still feel like a phoneloser, because not doing that qualifys me as a loser all the same, for the lack of effort, and just wanting to know how to have a fun time over the phone system at the expense of others qualifys me for the phone part. I was only wondering now, at 3:22 eastern time, about how the hell I will ever end up being as cool as you. I mean, you are the perfect example of today's american dream, a happy family, being a public enemy in several states, and having the time to write about it all. I suggest that you venture out twords my neck of the woods someday, assuming you will waste the time to figure out just where that neck is. I regret that due to the lack of security in this email, and the fact that I don't like to let people do things the easy way, I cannot just tell you this. Please Reply, because im so damn bored that I would like to communicate with you. -SniperVIII Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 13:11:36 -0500 From: "T." To: colleen@kracked.com Subject: Your in danger a narc <> http://virtualdistortion.yi.org/ This guy wants to start a pla branch site. He's lame claims to be original mod.ANd cant even tell me how caller id works. He steals other text files and puts em on his page, He's bragging how he's hard core pla. Lot of people are lol like when did they turn lame. ANY WAYS what i emailed ya about, this guys narcs people out. He's got mental problems. As soon as you don't kiss his ass our don't believe his lies, He goes online drops your doxs and brags about more bull shit then I've seen at a bull ranch. He's hated online actually he's so lame no one cares, But the fact is the people that do know him don't like the way he lies cheats and fucks over people. He rated me out to ameritech one time. So watch your back, And when people ask you if your lame in the future blow em off our tell them, You didn't know rattfink aka josh was claiming to be one of us. Just watch your back cause he will try to get info out of you. And don't believe that cos/mos shit he got that from a old textfiles.com bbs and read a few doxs he was never in it. Sorry to be so blunt just though you guys should know you got a branch site run by a narc who turned me in. I see you and rb live in il you guys should come to one of are local meetings on 86th ave one time at the bookstore. Welp se ya l8r foward this to every one you know, I don't wanna see this narc call ameritech on any one From: "Brian McAllister" Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 02:43:15 -0700 To: rbcp@phonelosers.org Subject: Your site and starting a state site Hello Rbcp I just want to say a few things one is that your site has been such an influence over my life in the past year I think that what you do is probably the best humor ever I have had some really rough times....my parents getting a divorce my mom getting married and my dad getting married my mom having a baby My grandfather's death and I have been able to look to your site to cheer me up I do not know if you understand what an influence your site is to alot of young people everywhere I am 13 years old and love playing with phones wether it be installing a new phone line to calling and harassing people it is the best thing that takes my mind off of my problems. ...I have come to the conclusion that there are no good h/p sites for Pittsburgh Pennsylvania so I wish to start a state site I hope you could take the time to help me with ideas for the site and for just writing back it would make my day a little bit brighter -Brian Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 18:06:33 -0700 (PDT) From: King Cyrus Subject: pay phone internet. =P To: rbcp@phonelosers.org This is probably a pretty retarded question to ask and you will flame me for it, but hey that's life. My question is this,.. maybe not anymore, but was it ever possible to coonect to the internet via a pay phone? The thoery behind this is the safety. Do your dirty work and leave before authority arrives. Clever, but too good to be true. I've seen people boast about this before, but never knew how/even if it was possible. Your thoughts on the subject are greatly appreciated. :) From: "Manic Velocity" To: rbcp@phonelosers.org Subject: Freddy's Paging System Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 01:27:23 MST A little note on your Portland Oregon story on the Fred Meyer paging system. The same thing is happening here in the "great state" of Utah. There is a Freddy's on 4th south and 6th east in Salt Lake City. They haven't replaced their paging system with guys on bikes but they have caught on to my antics. After simply one call and a prank, they've caught on to how it works. I called Freddy's customer service and asked them to transfer me to Cosmetics, (So that the call would show up as "IN STORE CALL".) I asked them to put me through to the paging system, which they did. I shouted, "Special on porn! All middle-aged lonely bald men please report to the sultry sexy 15 year old operating isle 7." Then hung up and laughed my ass off. Now every time I call in to prank the paging system, I ask them to transfer me to the paging system, and the call bounces straight back to customer service or whichever department I asked them to put me through to at first. Either they've changed their extensions or they know what's goig on. Just thought I'd let you know! Thanx for your time, Manic Velocity http://manic.hektik.org http://www.hektik.org From: "The Lizard Queen" To: rbcp@phonelosers.org Subject: 211 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 21:44:00 PDT dear rbcp: i was in san diego for the last couple of days, and during my stay there, i made a long distance phone call on a pay phone and while my call was going thru, the phone died. then i remembered how you can get your money sent back to you by calling an at&t operator and telling them what happened and what not from a pla issue. well, in any case, i was about to do that, but i saw that you can get refunds by dialing 211... i tried it and found that it's automated, and as far as i could tell, you didn't have to tell an operator anything... i'm not sure if this is one of those things that everyone knows, but since i don't really have anything else to do but email about it, what the hell?. this might only work on generic pay phones though (you know the type... they say "public phone" or "community phone" instead of a company's name)... oh wellz... i love the pla... keep up the good work :) ~ the lizard queen Reply-to: (unkn@wn) From: "(Unknown) (Unknown)" To: rbcp@phonelosers.org Subject: Help Please Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 22:53:38 GMT Dear Brad Carter Brad My name is Andrew Bedunah. I am mostly a phreak. i do a lot of redboxing blue boxing and altering cocots wiring. But i have noticed that the phonecompany is getting smarter slowly and phreaking will slowly die or become nearly impossible. So i am looking to you for help in another form of the same field. Hacking. Im not some dumbass Neophyte but i cant quite grasp it fully. If you could help me learn how to connect to a computer or connect to and be able to edit a websites HTML. i would be greatefull here are some of my computers stats. - Running on Windows 98 and Windows 95. (i have 2 computers) - I have ms-dos and Telnet - I have 7th sphere port scanner I know NOT to damage anyfiles or to try to hack MILTACS or VAX systems righ away. Please do not flame me, ive been flamed before for this question. your help would be greatly appreciated Luminous Psyyrcle P.S Also i like to mess with IRC so could you tell me any ways to mess with people through that. From: "Compu Droid" To: Colleen_Card@yahoo.com Subject: Hey baby! I've gotta (b)redbox! Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 11:58:28 EDT y0 Colleen! You are the coooooooolest! Jeez Louise and Bees knees! I want some cookies! I think your site is neato f-rad! The phonelosers r0x0rs my s0x0rs! One day I want to have a website with over 4 links that are two different pages OF my site! So far I've got a page with 45,002 links they all say they go to new exploits and jigga text files but they really all point to www.2600.com! Everyone will think I'm cool! Can't you just imagine! Quick! start updating the webcam 24/7 cause I dont go to sleep anymore, i just read outdated box philes over again and again and I want to look at pictures of the real hackers! It will be just like a MTV show only wiht hackers! It will be the bomb diggity! Fuck free speach! Fuck all that! Its all a load of crap! One more game! One more app! Warez's where its at! -CompuDroid From: "P Felon" To: rbcp@phonelosers.org Subject: Could you please read this? (this is not junk mail) Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 00:48:00 GMT RBCP, My name is Dan and I'm an amateur phreaker/hacker from Wisconsin and a frequenter to the site (I'm also the guy who new Chris Byrnes, the Milwaukee guy who kept stealing the domain name). Anyways, I just thought that maybe you'd be interested to know that for about the last month or so I've been tormenting this guy from my hometown who was annoying me at school (in a computer class, of all things). Firstly, I called his work and said that I was Mike from Dell Securities (fictional) and that he hadn't included his phone number in a job application that he had gave us. The girl working was more that happy to provide me with that, and I was on my way. What I did was place a few classified ads in the local newspaper (the Milwaukee one demanded an upfront payment) and I also signed him up for, say, about 30 magazine subscriptions (as per the recomendations in PLA issues). After calling his house repeatedly and inquiring about the $200 computer for sale (his mom sounded really confused about the whole thing), I continued to ponder the future and set off for college. Well, I get to college (University of Southern Cal, it rules) and after making my purchase at the bookstore, I notice that they slipped a flyer in the bag, one of those cards to sign up for multiple magazine subscriptions at once. Needless to say, Mr. Asshole will be receiving several subscriptions to Jet, Ebony, and Blaze (its funny, cuz he's a white guy). Also, in an issue of Maxim, I noticed a CD club membership form to get 7 free CDs right away, so I figured he'd want to join and get some disco albums and I took the liberty of signing him up for that too. The only flaw in these schemes is that I can't find out whether it is working or not. I don't know anyone who knows the guy or lives near him (to check his mail, etc.) My questions to you are: Should I call him to ask him about it? Should I pretend that I'm the subscription office? Should I just let it go? Well, thanks for taking the time to read this. I await any reply. -Dan (aka P Felon) p.s. It'd be cool if you'd post this on your site, as a "success story" or whatever. If you do, just don't use my email address or name (Dan is fine, but no more). Thanx. From: Jasert@aol.com Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 13:42:50 EDT Subject: No Subject To: rbcp@phonelosers.org the phone man just came to our house because the line was full of static. he picked up my phone and dialed 9880 i think. when he left i did it too.. it makes an automated voice say the phone number you are dialing from. are there any other code tricks like that? From: Ptokev@cs.com Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 11:57:15 EDT Subject: When they told me that they declared war ! To: [over 100 addresses removed - apparently this guy went through the PLA site and copied down every email address he could find, thinking everyone would just jump in and help him out. ] They obviously underestimated the power of the PLA. Please help in this matter and lets show them who they were fucking with! I could really use the every PLA members assistance in this matter,If you guys could help I would be forever thankful and ROTFLMAO! Please Call Denise Cranksluts Job Mediquest 916-676-xxxx Denise Cranksluts Cell 916-203-xxxx Denise Cranksluts house where she lives with her whitetrash boyfriend Terry Ford 916-348-xxxx Terry Ford's cell 916-712-xxxx ask if Denise the CRANK SLUT is there ? Thank God for the PLA Have Fun EDGE From: "James Frazer" To: Subject: Tha PLA Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 02:53:38 +1000 Hi I'm tha Fraze I've been reading all the PLA files for a while and it's pretty funny shit. Nice work dude - keep it up. Yeah I also took the advice out of the anarchy section of PLA issue 33 and got some petrol and burned the letters PLA in the lawn at my old high school - it was pretty funny they thought it said PTA so I sent a letter to the principal saying "no it didn't say PTA you fuckin MoMo it said PLA - Phone Losers of America. I'm gonna burn it into your ass if you don't stop pissing me off. Signed [the known alias of a guy I don't like]" This dumb fuckin principle actually went to the guy and suspended him for 2 weeks for burning the lawns, and sending a harrassing letter... DOn't know how he became principle - he must have an IQ of not more than 66... Oh yeah another cool thing to do to someone you don't like - you get one of those big wheelie bins (I don't know if you've got them in the states - we got em over here though) or anything you can fit a lot of water into, and fill it with water, then lean it against their front door and knock. Leave a note "you have just been fucked by tha PLA" This is something somebody told me works, but I haven't been able to find the shit to do it: you get glycerin and potassium managnate and mix them, and apparently it makes a really strong acid, which you can put on the roof of a car and have in chew right through it thorugh to the interior and out the bottom - this could be bullshit though - I haven't tried it... Anyway I just thought I'd share that with ya - thought you might have a laugh. Later..Tha Fraze From: HHH3701@aol.com Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 20:50:25 EDT Subject: BNF To: rbcp@phonelosers.org Is this shit for real? Cause if it is I want to help lead a resistance. One that shall crush our opressors. I was once someone who was following in your foot steps. Now I have returned to you guys. RBCP, we don't need to take thier SHIT any longer in the words of Duke Nukem "Lets Rock" From: SOulSLinGer00@aol.com Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 00:31:59 EDT Subject: hey brad, this is a guy from lake los angeles, i just wanted to tell you someth. To: rbcp@phonelosers.org hey!!!hows it going????if you are reading this iam damm supprised because i bet that you get lots of e-mail and probally say phuck it!!!!maybe iam wrong.......but anyways, iam a skateboarder and a phreak and when i went to this place to skate today with all my friends, for some reason this girl punched the back of the pay phone!!!!!!!(right where the little black box is in the back, i forgot what its called),but anyways, i was standing in front of the fone showin my friend how to get a free call by putting a nail in the micro phone then putting a paper clip in the hole,and the girl hit the back of the fone (pac-bell) and like a couple dollars worth of quarters came out!!!like all phreaks !!!,i went to the back of the fone and started kickin the shit out of this fone, in about 5 minutes we got like $5!!!!!!!!!!we didnt really want to keep getting money because its rite next to the main road in my little town (lake los angeles, by palmdale in california)and the pac-bell co building is rite down the street!!!!!!!hahahaha fuck pac-bell!!! i like those new shiny bell fones at the lancaster city park!!!!!anyways i just thought that you might want to know that, maybe you can do a little section on it or something in your spair time!?!?!?!remember we only did it once ,so i cant gaurantee that it will work on all fones every time but if ya need a little extra change, what the hell ya know, its worth a try!!!!!!! i dont need that extra money cuz i got my red box!!!!!!!damm, i love that phukin thing brad, thanx for writing that file on red boxing for dummies!!!! everything that i know ive gotten from your site!!!!!!!!!!!!i love it!!!!!!! oh yea!!i love bein a phreak!!!!!!i ordered a linemans handset from specialized.com, its the ts-17 model, $89.99...the cheapest one cuz ive never even used one yet so why should i spend more?and im planning on taking a trip down to the pac-bell building (if ya know what i mean) i think you do man!!! i hate the damm barbed wire though!!!!!!!!then i will get a dope ass linemans set!!!!!!oh yea!!!the last time i went over there the damm truck compartments were locked!!!!!!i was so damm pissed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! well i gotta go, please please get back to me via e-mail ok!!!!!i would really appreciate it, thanks!!!!!!oh by the way.......you sent me some crystals a couple of weeks ago, my name is....well, i dont know if i should say it in this letter so id rather not,but anyways i just wanted to say thanx for sending me 3 free phone losers stickers!!!!!!!!!!!!!alright, i gotta go man, please get back to me!!!!!as soon as possible, later rbcp!!!!!!!! From: "Stacie Smith" To: Subject: Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 15:33:12 -0500 RBCP; I have an interesting story, however it does not directly relate to Ma bell.....So here's my story: My best friend is seriously deprived of "privileges" such as using the computer, internet, phone, going places, etc. She is homeschooled and has quite a number of syblings that are also. When she found out that her parents were spending the night outside in the family camper, she was ecstatic. Time to do all the dirty work! Her first phone call was made to a psychic, us both being the devils we are. After fooling around with that and finding out some very interesting things she finally hung up. When the phone bill came in for that, her parents found the "psychic" phone call on the bill and were furious. Of course, she never admitted it. Being the good friend I am, I willingly volunteered to fix everything. For several hours I perfected talking in the most nasal, old- ladyish voice I could muster. Gathering up my handy microphone I recorded a message into the computer that went something like this: "Ah, yes, I'm from your phone company and there seems to be a mix-up. You were billed for a few 900 number calls that were not actually made on your bill. A refund is being mailed to you as soon as possible. have a nice day and we're sorry for the inconvienence." I waited until she was over at my house to subtly sneak her mother's cell phone out of her purse (right in front of them, and they never knew!), call her house and play the .wav file. When her mother returned home, she believed it, but would not lift ban until she received the refund. So I faithfully logged onto Ma Bell's website and downloaded their logo. I typed a nice letter explaining there was a mixup and gave it to her to put in the mailbox. She put it in the mailbox, but the postman took it. So I faithfully typed up another letter. She made sure the postman had done left, before she put it in. To make a long story short, they got the "refund", after she put money in the letter and she finally got out of trouble... Hope ya enjoyed it, ....its totally true! Stacie From: "Dr.Chopper" To: Subject: dialer Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 05:27:12 -0500 Hi there! Cool site here. I'm new to this scene and am finding it very cool. I work nights and find myself constantly awaken during the day. Usually it's by people who KNOW i'm sleeping and always start by saying " I know your trying to sleep but....( enter stupid reason here)" I must leave the phone turned on during the day, I have no choice. My quest has been to find a program that will dial a number at a set time. Like to call the loser back at 3 in the morning. If the program will let me enter a sound snippette all the better. Do you know of a program like this? I have looked and looked with no luck. Thanks for your time and have a great day. :) From: "damiend latao" To: rbcp@phonelosers.org Subject: Redding, California - RBCP? Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 20:35:15 GMT Sup, this is Damiend LaTao from the Philly2600...Ive been trying to start the PLA meetings also in Philadelphia. Anyway, Im in California (Redding) at the moment and I saw a payphone outside a grocery store that said "RBCP Rulz" and a PLA next to the coin return slot. I was wondering if it was you or whatnot. Anyway, im out. Latez DamiendLaTao Reply-to: From: "Chris St.Germain" To: Subject: New Phone Devices Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:51:13 -0700 I ran across these incredibly useful sounding devices, and I was wondering if anyone knew the mechanics behind them. (They're a little too expensive for my taste.) There's a box for every color in the spectrum and then some - are these any of them? http://www.spyproducts.com/Phoneringers1.html Are you the authority on phreaking on the Internet? If not, than who is it? Chris