+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | DARK FLUFFY PHREAKING BUNNIES - ISSUE 009 | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Released on April 24th, 2000 | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | DFPB does not encourage anyone to do anything useful with their lives. | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ "Listen boy, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR PROBLEM IS BUT STOP HARASSING ME AND MY ASSOCIATES... WHY DON'T YOU GO PLAY A NICE GAME OF BASEBALL OR SOMETHING!!!" - Hal Guttke, Ameritech Employee +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | CONTENTS IN THIS ISSUE | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Introduction.............................................................Arbie 618 BBSers STILL Obsessed with the PLA???................................Arbie In The News................................................................... IRC Logs...................................................................... Dino Allsman Translated For The English-Impaired.............................. Ways To Answer Your Telephone................................................. FruitWall Quotes.............................................................. E-mail........................................................................ +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | INTRODUCTION | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Well you may have noticed a small change in our group's name. We're no longer known as the Pink Fluffy Phreaking Bunnies - we're now the Dark Fluffy Phreaking Bunnies. I was told by a few people in email that the old name was too girly and that I'm a big pantsy and stuff so just to prove them wrong I've changed the name to prove a point. So we're still badass fluffy phreaking bunnies, we're just not pink anymore. -Arbie +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | 618 BBSers STILL Obsessed with the PLA??? | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Shortly after moving back to the 618 AC in 1998 I decided to see if there were still any BBSes around. I found that most of them were dead but there were still a few of them around, some that I even called back in '89 and '90 when I was obsessed with BBSing. So I signed up and got access to a few and started scrolling through messages and was really surprised to see a current & active discussion going on about the PLA. I haven't lived here since 1992 and Zak moved away in 1995. And here it is 1998 and people are still going on about it. So here's a few of the funnier posts that I picked out. Just a few people arguing with each other. 1989/2000 [1] Local Purple Troll Lounge (Gen. Chat) Title: ... Date: Wed Jul 08, 1998 01:42:02 CST (-0400) (10 days old) (1525 bytes) Origin: Clip Joint (AC-IL) From: Lady Leppard #611 @1618001 VirtualNET To: Phigment Haze #92 @1618001 VirtualNET Re: Well, the software is always lacking...it suffers.. > The lady, on the otherhand, would page me at 3 in the morning and > hang up before I could crawl out of bed. She and her self-proclaimed lesbian > sister were assosciated with the PLA (Phone Loosers of America), which > according to several accounts published in the Belleville News Democrat, > engaged in criminal phone harrasment campaigns. Several BBS systems which > did not spread pornography went down as a result. > StickNet and PORNnet, WWIV net systems run by LL and her sister, spread > pornography to minors and likely spread drugs as well. I don't care if she > logs in a million times. She's worth a laugh. I don't even know how to respond to this BS. I am not, nor was I EVER mixed up in the PLA. Nor did I ever let minors into my adult sections of my bbs. Leppard's Corner did NOT go down because of the PLA. I took it down cause bbsing died! You on the other hand have Megs and Megs of Illigal files, which you give access to anyone and everyone. If you want to point fingers, than that fine, lets do it. But before you get into a flame war with me, you better be prepared for the heat you bring upon yourself. Have you ever heard the phase...Don't throw rocks, if you live in a glass house? You better examine your life before checkin into mine. œ…d˜íœ‚ppƒrd ------------- Nice to see you're up to the same stuff as always, but you know, it doesn't even bother me anymore. See, now that I have a 2 year old and another baby on the way, I guess I've grown up a lot and your cheap bashes at me don't bother me. Maybe it's because it's so far-fetched.... As far as the PLA is concerned, I never supported anything that they did even though the individuals were my friends. Sorry, to say, I wouldn't even carry thier text files on my bbs even though none of the "members" of the PLA were conviced on any charge that the News-Democrat published. I don't believe in supporting illegal activities, my family is too important to me. So please, just leave me and my family out of your discussions. I did nothing to provoke this attack on me, heck, I don't even call this bbs. I just logged in to post this single message to you asking you to just leave me alone. My husband doesn't think it's right for you to call me a lesbain either... thanks and goodbye again Stickee ---------------- Hello -- I was watching the Jerry show and almnost asleep when a girl came out (HUGE KNOCKERO0S!) and started talking about how she had been enslaved in a life of prostitution by V. Sleazia and that lawyer Walnetto or whatever. The East side gangsters that used to be political bigshots here, ya know? Anyway, she was saying her sister was left dead in the basement of an East Saint Louis house for 6 MONTHS while people knew the body was there. She said her sister could have tied a retired ex-chief of police on a full pension to the Sleazia gang, so she got a hotshot of HEROIN! She said the body just lay in the basement and rotted while the guy living in the house kept quiet. Watta retirement plan.... Anyway, she was sayin all this and SLEAZIA walked out and punched her in the left tit and it BUSTED and it was a WATER BALLOON!!! And the sunglasses fell off her face and it was ZAK! And he started to beg for forgiveness and that Sleazia should take him back and all this other garbage. Then he cried and said he was sorry he evaded probation with RBCP in texas while sending the pot shipments north to be sold on a BBS. It was funny...ya shoulda seen it. L8r... --Phigment +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | In The News | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Amish Computer Scandal Shocks Community BIRD-IN-HAND, PENNSYLVANIA: In a recent sting operation, the Amish Bureau of Internal Affairs seized literally hundreds of dollars of unauthorized electronic equipment from the backwoods tool shed of Jeremiah and Ezekiel Holzmann. The brothers were in the process of downloading email when the raid took place. Most of the computer equipment taken was apparently purchased at agan Electronic swap meets, using fake identification and false mustaches to hide their Amishness. The chief investigator said that they were aware of rumors that the Holzmann brothers were secretly supplying information about the Amish to outsiders, who were then using the information for an Amish web page. The incident shocked the people who knew the Holzmanns. "They were such good people," said Anna Zimmerman, the next door neighbor. "They are leaders in our little church even. But now this" Her husband, Jake, mentioned that the Holzmanns always seemed to be carrying boxes wrapped in brown paper from their wagon to the tool shed. "Whenever I would ask them what they had in the box, they always told me that it was spare parts for their butter churn. It breaks down a lot." The equipment consisted mainly of older model computers, such as old TRS-80s and MacIntosh computers.The brothers claimed that since they were using obsolete technology, they should not be punished. "These are not real computers," claimed Ezekiel Holzmann. "We never even touched a 486, let alone a Pentium. We are using 9600 baud modems, and we powered them by hooking up a generator to the butter churn." Their story collapsed when investigators uncovered an invoice proving that they had ordered a Pentium Pro 233mHz from an undisclosed computer company in South Dakota. When confronted with the invoice, Jeremiah Holzmann fell to his knees, crying for forgiveness. "I told Ezekiel that it would escalate. It started with a desire to get an electric alarm clock so we could get up on time to milk the cows, but then we found a C64 at a barn sale. Soon, we kept wanting more and more equipment, until finally we were reduced to this!" They were sentenced to three years in an Amish Re-education Clinic, where Jeremiah plans to write a book about his shameful addiction to technology. When he mentioned the possibility of an interactive CD-ROM of the book, he was then sentenced to six years. +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | IRC Logs | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ This first log is an old one that I pulled out of my ass. I guess I got ops and the channel password in #scam and just to be annoying I killed the channel which was probably some kind of PLA hangout. I don't remember exactly but I think it was during the big Spee - LogicBox war or something if anyone remembers that. Session Start: Sun Mar 15 14:36:30 1998 uNF~$#@! i can't imagine why i'm not wanted there anymore this is so confusing take a wild guess is it my hair color? yes, we all hate you for your hair color, perhaps when you change it to blue we'll let you back in -> *leanground* i got a boner! yahoo! I'll be back tomorrow! i'm lost without your love what have you got against us? absolutely nothing. you're the one who kicked me so taking a channel, changing the password and mkicking doesn't fall into the catagory of having something against someone? no, i did that out of love. ah, i see and what did we do to deserve your love? tannest asked me to do it and said she'd netsex me if i did. i think she was framing me. you don't believe me either, do you? i'll bet... i don't know what provoked this; nor do i know what fuels this sudden hatred towards everyone, but taking the channel affects everyone in it, not just tannest... why? it was #scam and it had only existed for a couple of weeks. you guys have gone through 10 channels last year, why does this time make any difference? so you feel that the fact that we've had several different channels in the time span of a year justifys taking yet another one? sure, why not? wasn't it spessa's channel anyway? she doesn't seem that pissed at me. yes it was spessa's channel is she mad? she's angry that you would go about things in such a manner, perhaps you should talk to her and find out she's never on lately. ya know, i used to take over #rock on efnet every other day. this sure brings back memories. she's on everyday yeah, but i'm not maybe she's ignoring me too. can't imagine why, though. i'll be happy to deliver a msg... if she has your phone # i'll tell her to call you i think she has it. i'll find her on irc one of these days, i'm not overly concerned about it. she may be pissed but i don't think she's irc-obsessed enough to make an issue out of it like everyone else seems to want to do. i have no desire to make it an issue nor to get involed in any of it if you weren't involved you wouldn't have kicked me. i mean, i understand why you kicked me and i'm not angry about it, but it does show that you're at least a little bit involved. whats done has been done, and no grudges are held; however i'm not going to let you idle in #skam untill you see an oportunity to screw the channel over again... no kidding, then you'd have to reserve #sham or something. you involved me by mkicking in a channel i was in; what reaction did you expect? heh, you know, i didn't even know that mkick would ruin a channel like that. i thought it would just kick you all out and you could rejoin. thats exactly what it did, but no one is going to be in a channel where they are being constantly kicked out i could see mkicking once to get your point across, but you went so far as to change the channel password and proceed to mkick repetedly if you had the password again could you reclaim it? or is it fucked? we could always nag an ircop to do a /getpass on the channel, but were too fucking lazy and we sort of have a reputation with all the dalnet ircops Session Close: Sun Mar 15 15:01:50 1998 +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Dino Allsman Translated For The English Impaired -Arbie | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Recently I was looking up a big word on dictionary.com and I noticed that they had a handy utility that let you translate any text from one language to another. So I started typing phrases into the translater and thought it'd be fun to see what Dino Allsman would look like cursing at us in French or Spanish. So below is a cut-n-paste job of some Dino dialoge translated into Spanish. Even if you don't speak a word of Spanish, it's fun to read phrases from Dino like, "después, dickhead!" and "escucha, usted los pequeños dickweeds." Dino: " hey, si hay un cierto dickhead fuera allí de escuchar, porqué usted no me llama, usted bastardo del chickenshit! 258-xxxx, usted poco cogida." Dino: " escucha aquí, usted poco los pinchazos, le daré $100 dólares si usted viene aquí y muestra sus caras en vez de ocultar detrás de su fuckin ' teléfonos." Zak: " que sea efectivo o el alimento estampa, sir?" Dino: " hey, cójale! Adelántese aquí. Muestre su cara!" RBCP: " si venimos encima voluntad usted nos da una cerveza?" Dino: " sí, le daré una cerveza. Venido encima y podemos toda la bebida una cerveza." RBCP: " pero entonces usted golpeará mi asno con el pie." Dino: " no, no golpearé su asno con el pie. Apenas adelántese aquí y muestre su cara." Zak: " usted desea mi nombre?" Dino: " hola?" Zak: " no pienso que usted es gonna consigue un contrato de registro en cualquier momento pronto con esa voz." Dino: " hey, espere un minuto! Hey, no tenga gente de mierda el llamar de mi casa de mierda. Usted poco gato de mierda apagado. Cuál es su número, el hombre?" Zak: " 258-0357 " (number) Dino: " es usted seguro?" Zak: " no, le estoy contando una broma de mierda grande." Dino: " bien, me imagino que usted porque ése es todo lo que usted ha estado haciendo toda la noche de mierda está jugando de largo una broma de mierda. Déjeme decirle algo más. Se está registrando cada llamada de mierda que usted hace en el número del trabajo de la cogida de mi esposa, pero sé que usted no cuida." Zak: " su esposa me venderá las cintas porque tengo dicho algunas cosas divertidas bonitas esta noche." Dino: " hey, el lemme le dice que algo, muchacho, usted coja con mi esposa, usted sean de mierda con su propio life." Zak: " tengo ya. Ella no es ésa buena." Dino: " Oh, sí, right." Zak: " y ella me dio herpes." Dino: " Huh?" Zak: " I dijo que ella me dio herpes." Dino: el " Oh, de que es bueno." Zak: " bien, el gotta de I va now." Dino: " hey, espere un minuto, me sirven, deje consiguen una pluma " Zak: " Why?" Dino: " por qué? Porque llamada del wanna de I usted. Cuál es su nombre?" Zak: " Soy G Roy Hogareño Quién usted traga with?" Dino: " cogida yoü" Zak: " aceptable. Adiós." Dino: " después, dickhead!". RBCP: " Hi, Dino" Dino: " qué la cogida usted desea?" RBCP: " acabo de querer que usted supiera que esté vigilando todas sus llamadas telefónicas." Dino: " sí, sé que usted es, dickface." RBCP: " usted sabe el rectángulo gris en la cara de su casa que diga el interfaz de la red de teléfono en ella? Bien, he tapado mi teléfono en ése y tengo control completo concluído sus líneas. La resistencia es inútil." Dino: " sí, usted es lleno de mierda usted pequeño fucker! Porqué usted no me dice donde usted está?" RBCP: " aceptable, la iglesia en una furgoneta azul nos parqueamos a través de la calle. Hay un satélite emitido en su casa así que oímos todo dicho incluso cuando usted no está en el teléfono." Dino: el " bullshit, de que es la furgoneta de las iglesias. Se parquea siempre allí." RBCP: " por supuesto se parquea siempre allí. Le miramos siempre. Hay una cámara fotográfica allá en su estante." Dino: " escucha, usted los pequeños dickweeds. Soy gonna descubro quiénes usted es." Dino: " seguro, cuál es su nombre?" Zak: " Es Chris Tomkinson." Dino: " bullshit! Usted es lyin ', usted poco gato-apagado.". Zak: " hey, Dino, exactamente qué año de escuela del grado usted cayó?" I posted the Spanish translations onto the PLA Discussion List and of course Rufus T. Firefly couldn't be outdone by me so he took my translations and translated them (also with dictionary.com) BACK into English so now it makes absolutely no sense. But it's even funnier to read this way. Dino: " hey, if there is certain dickhead outside to listen there, porqué you do not call to me, bastard you of chickenshit! 258-xxxx, you little taken. " Dino: " it listens here, you little pinchazos them, I will give $100 dollars him if you come here and shows its faces instead of hiding behind his fuckin ' telephones. " Zak: " that is effective or the food prints, to sir " Dino: " hey, cójale! Adelántese here. Show his face " RBCP: " if we come will above you give a beer us " Dino: " yes, I will give a beer him. Come above and we can all the drink a beer. " RBCP: " but then you will strike my ass with the foot. " Dino: " no, I will not strike its ass with the foot. Hardly it adelántese here and it shows its face. " Zak: " you wish my name " Dino: " hello " Zak: " I do not think that you are gonna you at any time obtain a contract of registry soon with that voice. " Dino: " hey, waits for a minute! Hey, does not have excrement people calling of my excrement house. You little dull excrement cat. Which is its number, the man " Zak: " 258-0357 " (to number) Dino: " you are safe " Zak: " no, I am telling a great excrement joke him. " Dino: " well, I imagine that you because that one you are everything what you have been doing all the night of excrement an excrement joke is playing of length. Déjeme to say something more to him. Each excrement call is being registered that you do in the number of the work of the taken one of my wife, but I know that you do not take care of. " Zak: " her wife will sell tapes to me because I have these some amused things tonight pretty. " Dino: " hey, lemme says to him that something, boy, you take with my wife, you are of excrement with your own life. " Zak: " I have already. It is not that one good one. " Dino: " Oh, yes, right. " Zak: " and it gave herpes me. " Dino: " Huh " Zak: " I said that it gave herpes me. " Dino: the " Oh, of which it is good. " Zak: " well, gotta of I goes now. " Dino: " hey, waits for a minute, serve, leaves obtain to a pen " Zak to me: " Why " Dino: " why? Because call of wanna of I you. Which is its name " Zak: " I am G Roy Hogareno Who you swallow with " Dino: " taken you " Zak: " acceptable. Good bye. " Dino: " later, dickhead ". RBCP: " Hi, Dino " Dino: " what taken you wish " RBCP: " I finish wanting that you knew that she is watching all its telephone calls. " Dino: " yes, I know that you are, dickface. " RBCP: " you know the gray rectangle in the face of your house that says the interface of the network of telephone in her? Well, I have covered my telephone in that one and I have concluído complete control its lines. The resistance is useless. " Dino: " yes, you are full of excrement small you to fucker! Porqué you do not say to me where you are " RBCP: " acceptable, the church in a blue van parqueamos us through the street. There is a satellite emitted in his house so we even heard all saying when you are not on the telephone. " Dino: " bullshit, of which it is the van of the churches. Parquea always there. " RBCP: " of course parquea always there. We always watched to him. There is a camera back in its shelf. " Dino: " it listens, you small them dickweeds. I am gonna I discover who you are. " Dino: " surely, which is its name " Zak: " She is Chris Tomkinson. " Dino: " bullshit! You are lyin ', little cat-dull you. ". Zak: " hey, Dino, exactly what year of school of the degree you fell " -- RTF http://bounce.to/rtf - personal page http://connect.to/cwp - Celebrities with Phones archive +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Ways to Answer Your Telephone | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ These are dumb and I don't remember where I found them. But I'm listing them anyway. So sue me. Joe's Taxidermy! You snuff 'em we stuff 'em. City Morgue! You bag 'em we tag 'em. Joe's elevator! We're good till the last drop. Mandy's Ranch! You have the bucks we have the fucks. Joe's Strip-O-Gram! You flash the cash we flash some ass. Joe's Mortuary. You kill 'em, we chill 'em. Joe's Mortuary. You stab 'em, we slab 'em. Joe's Abortion Clinic. You rape 'em, we scrape 'em. Joe's Abortion Clinic. No fetus can beat us. Joe's crematorium - you choke 'em we smoke 'em. Mary's cat house, one of her kittens speaking!! Murray's riding stables, this is the ass speaking. Joe's Creamatorium! You kill em, we grill em! "Nobody here but us fuzzy-headed mutants" City Homicide... Our day begins when yours ends. Betty Massage Palour. We never rub you the wrong way. Turner Mortuary. You plug 'em, we plant 'em. Harry's stud farm - where the customer comes first. Joe's Brothel. First served, first come. Smith's summer home, some aren't. Smith's mule shed, which ass do you want to speak to? Municipal Sewer Department, we've had about enough shit from you. State Pen Executioner. You try 'em, we fry 'em. The Pearly Gates, Peter speaking. The White House, Millie speaking. Geniuses are us, this is Albert. City Sperm Bank. You wack it. We pack it. City Mortuary: We drain 'em, dress 'em, dig 'em, and drop 'em. +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | FruitWall | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ If you visit our site at www.phonelosers.org you'll see some kind of weird quotation on the top of the screen. When you click on it you're taken to a new page where you can change this quote. This is called FruitWall. Most of the quotes are stupid like when people try to post each others phone numbers or try to promote their web pages. But then ocasionally there's some funny stuff up there. Here's a collection of some of the better ones that I took out of the logs in late 1999. 07/06/99 i like rubbing my nipples while watching wargames, is that a crime? 07/06/99 "Wouldnt you prefer a nice game of Chess, Professor?" 07/06/99 PLA Presents: Phones For Dummies *ONE TIME ONLY! FREE RED BOX! 07/06/99 Please visit irc.dal.net and join the #up$ channel!!!! 07/06/99 NOTICE: DO NOT VISIT IRC.DAL.NET AND DO NOT JOIN THE #up$ CHANNEL*** 07/07/99 Classic PLA: 'Did he say anything about Roy?' 07/07/99 Gerbils are FUN! 07/07/99 Use an Apple IIe as a red box Today! 07/07/99 I Wanna Be A Phoneloser 07/09/99 fight the good fight, go dumpster diving 07/09/99 For a free phone call, stick your penis into the coin return! 07/10/99 my backpack smells like old coffee, i didn't know gte guys drank soooo much 07/11/99 linear says: UPL is lame. 07/11/99 mama always sed scanings like a box a chocolates u never no wut u gonna get 07/12/99 SHOOT KEVIN! Oh my god! They killed Kevin! You legends! 07/12/99 RBCP IS A FAG 07/12/99 The PLA: Why carding twenty dollars a month for an ISP is worth while. 07/14/99 I have nothing intelligent to say. Fuck. 07/14/99 Honestly officer, i did put the coins in ! 07/16/99 Sure must suck to have a site visited primarily by twelve year olds. 07/16/99 I am Roy's love child! 07/16/99 no officer,i said red socks,not red box. 07/16/99 It never came to my mind that this might be illegal, Officer 07/17/99 No officer, I'm not stealing from this GTE van.... 07/17/99 Korn should write "Kick the PLA".... 07/17/99 You're swell, UPL! 07/18/99 "No, officer, I did *not* teach my parrot to whistle quarter tones..." 07/18/99 i buy all of my home furnishings at my local rat sHACK. 07/19/99 My name is Bobby Bouche, And My momma says Phreakers are the Devil! 07/19/99 OCI: Only Complete Idiots 07/19/99 Operator: "Sir, can you play a song with that red box too?" 07/20/99 I cannot deposit a quarter operator, this is my *home* phone! 07/20/99 EXPENSIVE KEVIN!!! 07/22/99 my little brother makes redbox tones when i punch him in the stomach 07/24/99 Sixty nine shirtless PLA agents are being dispatched to your house. 07/25/99 "I swear officer, this was all here BEFORE i got here" 07/26/99 No Officer, I'm not pissing on this payphone... 07/27/99 Clean-up in PLA thirty-four. Report with the mop and bucket, please. 07/27/99 DINO ALLMAN WANTS TO GIVE YOU ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS!!!! 07/27/99 Would that be in cash or foodstamps, sir? 07/28/99 "Hey kid what the hell are you doing with that payphone" -prototype 07/28/99 Live from New York it's PLA 07/31/99 Hey kid" "yeah you what do you think your doing to that payphone 08/02/99 PLA calling I am quizing the operators today. What's a red box. Huh? 08/03/99 I live in a closet with a switch board and a bell hat 08/03/99 phone spelled backwards is enohp coincidence or conspiracy you decide 08/07/99 Two out of three Dirty French Whores agree that PhoneLosers.org Kicks Ass! 08/11/99 ...Someones been using FAXBACK to harass me. Can you stop them? 08/14/99 Officer, I swear, I have no clue how that pay phone got in there.... 08/15/99 Honestly occifer, I NEVER mix liquor with my red boxing... 08/25/99 Dude what is with this cactus? I am losing sleep over it. 08/28/99 Henry the OCI operator begins crying "Why won't you leave me alone PLA!" 09/01/99 No sir, Taco Bell is not a Mexican Telephone Company. 09/02/99 Phone losers? I haven't lost a single telephone yet! 09/22/99 But officer, I DID find that lineman's hardhat at a garage sale! 09/24/99 THE RED BOX TONES YOU HAVE USED ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE IN YOUR AREA 09/26/99 should they rename radio shack to phreakers depot? 09/26/99 they should name it to "Phreakerz R Us" 09/29/99 Yes, operator, can you tell me why my red box isn't working on this phone? 10/02/99 The annual Jerry Lewis P.L.A. Telethon, Live on UPN 10/12/99 KATHKWILTS - Do not harass our channel 10/14/99 No Officer I was just walking to church and I found the can open like that! 10/24/99 FREE NAWLEED 10/26/99 PLA-Mart, low phone bills are just the begining 10/28/99 Colleen told me RBCP has a small thing! shh! 10/28/99 My mom says the PLA must be stopped! 10/29/99 el_jefe is the man 10/31/99 Happy Halloween! I heard payphones are giving out free calls this year! 10/31/99 how much money is in in the cash register? are you alone?" +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | E-mail | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ This first email is really old, back when we first started promoting the PLA nationally. Apok0lyps got a little upset that we didn't include his name in the PLA footers. Heheh.. There is new mail in your mailbox! Do you want to see it now (Y/N)? y Date: Friday, June 23, 1995 8:21am Electronic Mail From: INTERNET: apoklyp@apci.net Msg#: 828156 To: RedBoxChiliPepper Re: pla032.txt email address?? Hi Brad. Was there a reason my email address wasn't shown at the end of the new pla file? I just wondered. Also, can I have pla033.txt for the filename for my Radio Shack Guide? :) It's almost finished. I already got all the headers and footers setup (using newest footer) and will include pla000.txt and the orderform in the zip. Oh, and do you care if I put my email address in the footer? Apok0lyps (bob) -------------------------------- Has a missing person snowball E-mail been started for Peachy. I here it can be a pain in the ass for the PD if it's successful. Xancharmos Prime (the_green_mage@hotmail.com) [What a novel idea. That's is so tempting. ] -------------------------------- Dear rbcp and coleen, a while back i wrote you an email askin about the dangers of carding, you responded telling me not to do it , and you basically saved my ass. well, i think i might be in trouble again, i was recently hanging out on some lame party-line (i didnt box it or even use *67 i was just kinda bored) and i got to talking to some people , well , i eventually got social engineered into admitting that i was under 18 , and some guy came on and said something along the lines of, "i work for this line, and have your phone number and address, you are under 18 and legal actons will be taken against you" ok, the fact is i was talking to a girl at first, in a "sexual" nature, and got caught admitting that i was under 18, i got caught because of my own stupidity and i should take whatever punishment comes to me, but i was pretty sure that partylines just kick you off the line. so im wondering what they can legally do, and what is going to happen to me, and my phone bill, if anything at all -lu loses [Absolutely nothing is going to happen to you. Those party lines have gotten a lot of bad press and the owners are just watching out for themselves by monitoring the private rooms and attempting to scare away the minors. (In your case, it worked!) Assuming it's not a toll-free line, just *67 your call and dial back in. As for your phone bill, you'll be charged for the call just like any other long distance call.] -------------------------------- I am just writing to inform you that I received your virus.. Yep, I downloaded Beermat Software's DopeWarz 2000 and guess what I got. 2000+ junk directories on my hard drive and a message on my config.sys and autoexec.bat files that said: "Kevin Mitnick is a necro-homosexual!" "http://www.phonelosers.org" "-JS" "Kevin Mitnick is a necro-homosexual!" "http://www.phonelosers.org" "-JS" Just wanted to say thanks.. Oh, and I contacted the Federal Bureau of Investigation's Office of Computer Security and told them about it too. Hope the FBI greets you pleasantly, motherfucker. -Radiodeluc [This is funny - someone wrote a virus and put our URL in it so this guy automatically assumes it must have been me. Next time don't download files without scanning them! ] -------------------------------- From: "Bob martin" | Block address Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 09:13:34 -0500 To: rbcp@phonelosers.org Subject: Funny Story bout combo box Add Addresses hi i've got a funny story that happened to me the other day. about two weeks ago i ordered some crystals from you for making a red box or combo box. we they finally arrived (damn snail mail) I WAS SOOO HAPPY. then i went and bought a 33 memory tone dialer and a 6 prong slider switch. so i could make my combo box. i got home and tore the dialer open and i saw the normal crystal but then i also saw a 6.55mhz crystal that had replaced a transister. i started laughing like crazy. some idiot had tryed to make a red box but had replaced the transister instead of the crystal. so i unSoldered the 6.55 crystal and took out the tone dialer crystal and replaced it with the one that was already there so now i have two extra crystals. hehe. i thought i would share that with you. i thought it was funny. thanks for the crystals. ߣind32 -------------------------------- Hey. I've learned a lot from your zine I guess, in and around your site for several years now. Anyways, I (in lack of better terms) hacked a simple email account of some chick. I happened upon it through trenchcoat.org, which has a link to some gothic listings place, then to something called SF Nightbreed which is a message board for goths to try to hook up with each other. I live in Sacramento, CA, and there happened to be one person who also lives here who posted a listing, so I decided to give it a shot, went to the site where her email account is from (like hotmail), got the password (the hint question was "what is your zipcode", pretty simple. Just brought up a master list of all zip codes in Sac area online, and then just a matter of time, naturally). Anyways, the point of this is after appending all the emails I could get off of it, from 2 accounts as it turns out, to a big-ass document it seems this 18 year old chick has BDSM sexual crap with 2 other people who are like in their 50s or something. After going through the emails I have compilied a list of close friends (I figured only the idiots on AOL and the ones who also subscribe to the same service were worth jotting down) whom I could pump for info (I've already set up a second screen name to impersonate her for the AOL people she chats with on occasion), along with a good profile of who this chick is, complete with total information. So far I've got her real name, parent's name (she seems to live with just her mom), what she calls herself at the local goth clubs she supposidly goes to, address, phone number, D.O.B. only for the year, I can't find anything about day or month, and so on. One thing I'd point out is that the other guy has a cell phone I got, and some kind of 800 number listed which I don't know what it is yet, but it belongs to the guy and he seems very cautious about her using it (or "abusing" it) So what do I do? I've got a million ideas, many of which may or may not actually work through, so many I can't figure out how to get started. And I figured, hell, you of all peoples should have some suggestions. Oh yeah, and best of all is I've got pictures of them from it, one of who this chick is, and two of her butt-naked completely (one of which has the guy, from back-view, the other has the second woman). Also the guy seems obsessed with his penis, and has sent her multiple scanned pics of it among various things. This has got to be worthy of something, just imagine if you could have used naked pics of Dino to your advantage. So if this thing turns out half as good as I'm hoping it will, do you want to print it or anything? I can put together tapes and logs of whatever happens, along with the emails I've gotten + pics, info, etc maybe it would make something interesting to put up, I can't think of anywhere better then PLA. Just seening if you'd want an update whenever I do more (I have yet to act upon this), and what you'd suggest. Oh, and by the way,the fruitware stuff really kicks ass. I'm hoping Bowienet offers SSI so I can put them to use eventually for me. Hope to hear from you soon. -XahXhaX@aol.com [Geez, somebody really needs to stop you. You're dangerous.] -------------------------------- What would you do if a guy is a real asshole and you have his credit card info? -J D (zagton@yahoo.com) [Do I really have to answer this? Isn't it obvious? ] -------------------------------- This email is taken from a posting on the PLA Discussion List: From: "Rufus T. Firefly" Today I was in 7-11, and in a very very bad mood. The cranky old counter-lady was eyeing me suspiciously, in a "that young man is wearing a black trenchcoat, he must be stealing something" way. This was the icing on my bad day of a cake. So I retaliate by bringing the orange juice I'd come for to the counter, and calmly asking her to add to my purchases a copy of each and every porno magazine from behind the counter, one at a time. "Oh, and that one, 'Biker Sluts.' Yes, thanks. And say, what's that one there? 'Black Hot Rods?' Yes, one of those. And the next one over, 'Pussy Parade.' Yes, put it here, with the others. And the one over there, I can't read the title but it has that blond guy with his face in the other guy's- yes, that one.." etc. Soon I had a towering stack of about 20 porno mags next to my orange juice. "Will there be anything else?" she barks at me. "You know, I hope you don't judge me or anything based on this stuff I'm buying," I offered. "I just like them for the dirty pictures." "Look, is that it or WHAT?" She really wanted to get rid of me. "Actually... I'll tell you the truth, okay?? I only read the articles, but I'm too embarrassed to say!!" Then I ran out crying, leaving everything on the counter. I walked around the block and collapsed on a bench, laughing myself silly for about 5 minutes straight. I felt much better afterwards. -- RTF http://bounce.to/rtf - personal page http://connect.to/cwp - Celebrities with Phones archive [You rule, Rufus.] -------------------------------- If you read UPL's issue #16 you might remember an article I wrote about securing your domain name to keep it from getting hijacked. I wrote this because a guy named Chris Byrnes stole phonelosers.net from us. In the article I casually mentioned that you could contact Chris for more information on the subject by calling his home at 414-762-5995 or his work at 414-762-0991. A month later he started sending me emails about it. Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 20:30:36 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Byrnes To: rbcp@phonelosers.org Subject: Request. This is a request that you please remove the information of myself and my father from http://www.phonelosers.net/issues/upl016.html. If this information is not removed, a lawsuit will appear on your desk for libel. Thank you for your swift cooperation. --Chris Byrnes [My reply was "How did you know I had a desk???] -------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:04:37 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Byrnes To: RBCP Subject: Re: Request. > How did you know I had a desk!?!?! I'm psychic. But seriously, there is going to be a libel suit coming up if this information isn't removed. Let me know what you decide. -Chris -------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:18:08 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Byrnes To: RBCP Subject: Re: Request. > The content on phonelosers.net isn't controlled by me. You should go to > phonelosers.net and email one of the people who run that site if you have a > problem with the content on that site. The content was written by you, therefore it is your responsibility to have it removed. -Chris -------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:33:50 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Byrnes To: RBCP Subject: Re: Request. > No, I wrote an article and submitted it to UPL and they are responsible for > what they publish. So talk to them. Or send lawyers after me, I don't care. The writer is responsible for his own content. The publisher is not responsible for publishing slanderous material, the writer is responsible for writing it. If you don't think we can settle this amicably, I can contact my lawyer and have them deal with it. -Chris [About a month later (1/14/2000) I wrote him and said "That lawsuit hasn't arrived on my desk yet. What's the holdup? And I didn't get a response. ] -------------------------------- would you please tell your friends to leave me alone in #phonelosers especially pURP. He keeps calling my house. I am trying to get in to the "scene" and they make fun of me because im 13 yrs old. So,would you please make them stop or something. Thx, Anux44 (anux44@hotmail.com) --------------------------------- [Taken from the PLA Discussion List] To: pla_discussion@onelist.com Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 23:21:26 GMT From: "The ehT" (the3rdworm@hotmail.com) Subject: Re: [pla_discussion] fun I laugh at your puny attempt to worship Rufus T. Firefly. You've never been stuck in your room when you have nothing but PLA and PLA related things to occupy you. You've never been so desperate in life that the methods written in those issues are your only way out, out into the free world, out to where everything is accessible, out, out of this disintegrating isolation... out to... a new world... a world that you've never seen before... a world that... makes you happy... a world in which, looking at things you feel hyper rather than sad and depressed... in a world where, when you look at an ugly security guard you can laugh at them deep inside instead of thinking that the world is infested with such low lives who seem to rule your life.... that world being provided by brave heroes, who have the strength, the courage, the wisdom to say NO to boredom, to cut through those ropes that tie you down into the society forcing you to be average, to let their souls be free, and also inspire people, inspire people like me, stuck in my boring room, with no friends, no internet access, no interesting places to go to, no money, no CD player, no TV, no Computer except the one I made of a 133 mb and stuck it inside a suitcase and hid it from everyone... yes... I had to sneak in to other people's comps with AOL floppies and d/l H/P/L issues, cuz they were the only light in my world, because the sun was definately gone... and the heroes of such writings amazed me, I felt the excitement in my veins flowing while reading their stories, I wanted to be like them, I wanted to do all those things... to me, RBCP is God, Rufus T Firefly is Jesus, and other people who have made it that far are as well Heavenly entities.. I don't think you can ever worship them as much as I do... I will hang myself for them, I will die for them, I will crucify my soul and burn in hell just to have them live on in the phreaking world for eternity, if there was such an option... if I had to do anything for them, I would do it. and you know, when I see a message from such a star, I don't think "oh cool a message" I think "OMG what WILL they say next", I get the best feeling in the world, it's like drinking water after hiking in the desert for 5 days... I even try to dress like those people from that Hackers movie. My lifelong dream is to go to that Illinois Post Office, and stand there and wait for RBCP to come by and check his mail... -------------------------------- Hay you Chilipeppers, check this out. Kevin Mitnick was with Emmanuel Goldstein at the New York City 2600 meeting today. I couldn't help but notice that some of the crowd around him were getting their 2600 mags signed by him. He looked as though he felt kinda silly doing it, but whatcha gonna do, right? Anyway the first thing that popped into my head was Colleen's page, and the presents she sent him. I wondered if he liked them or what, and thought I'd ask for you. So I go up to him after the crowd of Kevin-groupies dispersed a bit, and it went something like this.. RTF - Hi! KM - Hi! (handshake) RTF - Can I ask you something? I don't know if you got it yet or what, but someone sent you a box, with some chocolates and cds and stuff.. KM - (his face lights up) Oh, right! From Illinois? East Acton? RTF - Alton, right. KM - Yeah! The cds and stuff! What was her name.. RTF - Colleen. KM - That's it, Colleen. That stuff she sent was great. I haven't eaten the chocolates yet, though. RTF - So you liked the package? KM - Very much! In fact on my web page soon, there are going to be pictures of some of the gifts people have sent me, and that one is definitely going up there. I was going to write her back, with a thank you note. Is she a friend of yours? RTF - Well, kind of- KM - Do you have her phone number? (oooh, Colleen, I think he likes yoooou!) RTF - Uhhh... (i flip through my tone dialer) Not on me, no. KM - Oh.. Could you email it to me? (its kevin@2600.com, his email gets printed up by the 2600 guys and snail mailed to him every couple weeks) RTF - Sure, I guess so. (inspiration strikes) Hey, do you know what'd be cool? Do you think you could sign this magazine for her? (my 2600) KM - I'd love to. Colleen, right? RTF - Yep. Two l's, two e's. (He signs the inside back cover, image attached.) RTF - Thanks! I bet this'll make her day. KM - No problem. Thank her again for me! I asked him a few unrelated questions later, such as whether that Markoff guy ever had anything to say for himself ("No. He's a coward.") So there you have it. I'll mail this mag off to you as soon as I'm done reading it (happy birthday / anniversary / easter / kwanzaa / whatever) And the fact that I've just met a h4x0r icon, shaken his hand, and aided his stalker makes me feel all warm and fuzzy. You guys could even email him your phone number if you want, and hope that the phone system itself doesn't phear him too much to connect the call for you. [Thanks, RTF! As usual, you rule. Colleen's autographed magazine and Mitnick Stalking page can be found at http://www.phonelosers.org/colleen/mitnick.html. ] --------------------------- Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:10:19 -0800 (PST) From: Chris To: rbcp@phonelosers.org Subject: greetings I had talked to you about Pacific Bell (Vhoice Mail ), about that bitch Brian Duchebag...well I'm sure that you get thousands ANd thousands of e-mail every day so I'll get to the point: I was busted about 4 years ago by Jim Bayless..I know that he talked to the detective that busted me a while ago (in '96)..it was the gayest experience I had ever been through,told the detective that what I did was "so so bad, you should charge him with 5 felonies"...I thought to myself, "what a bunch of shit" and since Johhny CocKran wasnt my attorney I couldn't beat Detective FuckFace in court cuz he had all the goons on his side and my public defender wasnt the briteset when it came to computers and telephones...so I just took the plea and served 4 mounths in jail..also they impossed a sanKtion "defendant not to possess a computer for 3 years". Funny thing is I didnt even use a computer to Break into Red Cross' VMB's, it was a telephone and since Jim bayless can talk up a storm the detective bought that shit and then told the court how bad I was and how I shouldn't be allowed to play on a computer...well that is all over now cuz I have seccessfully served probation and am now allowed to play on a computer..back to my old tricks and all...I just wanted to share "this" story with you since you share your stories with us, and I just want to say that I enjoy reading them...hell,I print out almost everyone cuz I really like to read them when I'm bored...Thanks RBCP Seeweed..... [Wow, busted by a famous PLA guy. I would be honored! Hey, could we see a copy of the letter that Jim Bayless wrote to the detective? We can? Thanks, Seeweed! ] June 4,1996 Det. Grant Gulickson Brea Police Department Brea,California Det. Gulickson: As per our telephone discussion of last week, I am FAXing you this letter and the attached details of long distance telephone calls affecting out Indianapolis customer Central Indiana Regional Blood Center (CIRBC). This customer, via their communications manager, Ernie Boyles (317-927-1788), contatced me on May 15 to report that an unknown party had left obscene messages for one of there employees. After discussing the situation with the customer, I advised that many such VMX access occur via dial-up or 800 numbers. I suggested the customer check for any call details coming in on their 800 number, 800-611-1522, which is handled by AT&T. The customer, through VMX audit information, was able to identify the times and dates of many of the unauthorized accesses to their VMX system. By matching such known access times to details captured by AT&T, they were able to identify multiple calls originating from the Yorba Linda, California area. The orginating number of most calls was 714-xxx-XXXX, which according to AT&T is the Number for a customer by the name of XXXXX XXXXXXX. Other Yorba Linda Numbers were involved in calling the CIRBC's 800 #, but as you will note from the attatched, the majority of the calls are from the XXXXXXXX household. As mentioned to you earlier call, CIRBC indicated that the unauthorized access person told them that he was a hacker and that he went by the handle of "seeweed". The CIRBC thing that they have retained a VMX message wherin the caller says he is a hacker. However, at this time they have not been able to produce such a recording for me at this time. If they do, I will call you and see if it is of intrest to you to record such messages for you to record. I hope this information will be helpful in proving XXXXXXX's household is still involved in unauthorized access accesss to customers telephone facilities. I have suggested to the CIRBC that they check with thier outgoing long distance providers to be sure the hacker(s) did not utilize their VMX system to generate outgoing long distance calls that will be billed to their account. Please do not hesitate to give me a call at 317-265-2539 if I can help with your attention to this matter. We appreciate your intrest and assistance in this incident. Sincerly, Jim L. Bayless Security-Specialist Ameritech-Indiana (317)265-2539 (317)265-1070 (FAX) As you can see that is pretty much it, I recived a copy when this shit went to court and had to get my "court documentation papers". I laughed at the detective while he was on the stand cuz the charges he had against me where "bullshit" and he knew it... Well rbcp, I hope you enjoyed this story... seeweed [By the way, Jim LOVES it when people call up his office and mention to him that his office telephone number is 265-ALEX. This reminds him of his arch enemy, Alex Carbon from 1993. Yes, he STILL remembers Alex to this day. ] ------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 03:05:43 -0500 To: rbcp@phonelosers.org From: Jolly Spamhead Subject: Webpage hacked PLA related... www.walltowallnuts.com and armsportinc.com was hacked tonight and PLA is linked.... Jolly Spamhead, --------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:16:08 -0500 From: "Arthur Turner Jr." To: rbcp@phonelosers.org Subject: Tapes/Cds wanted Hi, I'm looking to get the tape/cd of Don Win calls and Cambodian Refugee calls. Do you have them or know where I can get them? I don't have anything to trade as what I have is the basic stuff. However, I am willing to buy a copy from you. Please let me know. Thanks. Arthur [I too would love to get a copy of those calls. They're classics and I used to have a very bad copy of it but the quality was so horrible that I threw it out. There was once a web site I found in 1997 that had all the calls up in excellent quality Real Audio clips. And it not only had the calls up but they created a dance mix based on the calls and they had made all these cool graphics based on the calls and everything. I bookmarked the URL but only a few months later it was a dead link. I've searched the web since then many times but I can never find these calls. If anyone has them, please email Arthur or me. ] ----------------------------------------------- From: "Lee Drake" To: Subject: rbcp READ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 23:36:56 -0600 RBCP, Hi! You don't know me. I read some PLA articles from "Pirate" bbs's in the mid 90's. Your articles (I guess they were yours) were hilarious and I still have them around for entertainment. Those were the times when the best video games were 2 disks and you could download them from the local "pirate" bbs if you uploaded 1 disk. Not like today when you can get the latest and greatest 400 Meg game from www.piratz.blah just for showing up. Just on a lark (nostalgia), I searched the internet for phone losers and lo and behold, got the site. I'm thrilled! I read some of your page (until I got bored) and looked at some pictures. Smiled at your family, I have one of my own now too. Nice to see you and get the feel of your travels. My wife and I lived in Alton (now almost a shithole MAJOR) for the first 5 years we were married... 84 -89. At first we lived down on 6th street near fast eddies, where I was the whitest black guy around. Then we moved to Grandview Av uptown for 6 years or so. We later moved to Edwardsville and then when the Army reloc'd us to Alabama, we moved here. Like you care. While we were in Alton/Edwardsville, I was on some of the local bbs's and your name came up as legendary... I don't remember the kid's name but he ran a bbs with a girl named andromeda/laura. I got the PLA articles from there. Funny stuff. Do you have all the old articles? Or are they on the web site? I'll be looking into the PLA links more in the coming days etc. I'm glad you put them up on the i/n. Take care and I hope you're doing great. Lee Drake [The other kid's name was Amigados which is the same guy who created the whole Cactus legend and their BBS was called Bogus Journey. Laura's was one of the last really GOOD BBSes to leave the 618 area. All of the archived PLA issues are available at phonelosers.org/viewpla.html. ] ---------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 01:30:11 -0800 From: Chris Perley To: rbcp@phonelosers.org Subject: (no subject) To whom it may concern, I am currently being photographically humiliated on the internet. Is there any way to stop this maniac? Yours Truly, Melissa [Try the police or the feds maybe? In the meantime, what's the URL to the pics?!#@$ ] -------------------------------------- Me and my friends stole a payphone. I was curious if it was still possible to hook up this phone in my house and use it as a regular phone, or are there all kinds of shit i have to go through. I think it is possible but i don't want to waste my time if it isn't. Krueger [I don't see why you wouldn't be able to hook it up to your own phone line. I've hooked up plenty of "extension phones" to both cocot and Bell phones before so there's no reason why it wouldn't work the other way too. Depending on the type of phone it is though, you may or may not be able to make or receive calls with the phone. For example, if it's a cocot and somebody calls your house, the cocot may pick up the phone and say it's generic, "Thank You" message and hang up on the caller. And if you try to make a call, the cocot could dial up it's provider's 800 number, enter in it's code and ask you for money first. This would really be bad because you cocot dialing an 800 number from your home could help them figure out who stole the phone. So just be careful with it...] -------------------------------------- I'm sure you're just thrilled that some complete stranger is e-mailing you out of the blue, just because he read your bio and was completely engrossed by it. My life seems so.... petty now. Anyway sounds like you had fun getting where you did and finally settling down. I settled down early, before I had a chance to do anything crazy like steal $4000 from my employer. Unfortunately my wife doesnt feel the same way as I about packing our bags right now and just leaving shitty Nebraska behind. Dont really know why I wrote this e-mail. I guess its just because you've made so much of your life public, I thought maybe you'd like to hear from a 'fan' -Mike G ---------------------------------------- Hey RBCP, I'm only 14 but hell, I love what you do. I've done a little CC fraud (it still works, even in the great year 2000) and I love my prank calls (even though I've already been busted). I was disappointed you stopped the PLA zines but I'm glad you did before they started to suck. You are damn good at your prank calls, you rock. -Dragon Curve ------------------------------------------ You probably get a shit load of e-mail, but I'm writing this anyway... When searching for some IRC scripts, I stumbled upon the PLA web page. I thought about it and vaguely remember something from about five years ago: I grew up in Edwardsville, IL, and used to screw around with the local BBS's for warez and general juvenile mischief. I used to go by the nick Skinhead (I'm not a skinhead nor a racist; I began using modems around then and saw some guy using the nick HeadShaver...I figured I could use a familiar nick to gain access to the warez BBS's, which I did). I used to log on to Roy's Place and learn a little from your posting, (brown boxes and such) harassing some guy and throwing Zima bottles at his house. Anyway I remember saying something that pissed you guys off for some reason, and you called me at my friend's house giving me shit. I knew it was you and *69'd you back posing as the police dept. You laughed at me, but unbanned me for a while... It's odd that the PLA seems to have grown so much. From what I remember, there were few of you back then. I guess it's all pretty much blown up since then. I assume you moved on with your life and probably find this e-mail odd. It was nice to reminisce, though. -Jim Gibbons --------------------------------------------- hey, after reading all the funny shit on your webpage i never knew scanners were so fuck'n cool...dude...tell me exactly what type of scanner you recommend...nothing too expensive though.....and how do you get the person's number when you are scanning them...and does this scanning shit still work today? These may be some really dumb questions but i wanna know... -Darioush Dadgar [Yep, scanning still works today. You can't scan digital cellular signals but there are still a TON of analog phone users out there and it doesn't seem that they're going away anytime soon. If you just want to scan basic cordless phones then just about any scanner with at least 25 presets will work. Most people use 900MHz cordless phones though and you'll have to search the net for a scanner that picks up this frequency. (Try ebay.com or Yahoo Auctions.) To get the person's number you just keep listening to their conversations until they eventually give it out. It may take days of listening or you may get it on the first conversation you hear. ] ---------------------------------------------- Dear Brad, Alex or (insert name here)_____________, While some people apply their God-given talents to constructive work such as doctoring, teaching or research, you apparently spend all of your efforts devising clever ways to harass people. You are the greatest! I really believe your life ought to be a movie. You have great stories, you lived off your witts and went wherever your whim took you, you've got a good sense of humor but, most of all, you seem to never stop dreaming up these schemes! Your knack for electronics is the creme de la creme, or something. I don't know if realize just how special you are. I never felt this way about another man before....no, not like that! I mean like a father to a son (which of course in my family means that we have sex... ha, ha, ha)!!! In resolute homage, TP McCabe ----------------------------------------------- RBCP, Dude, the pranks are mad funny and the PLA was my main reason to get into phreaking. I know you don't care but I just wanted to say keep it up. That is definatly some funny shit. -gear ------------------------------------------------ Ha ha ha, well, by the title, you probably know where I am gonna go with this. Anyways, I just wanted to know if you guys have had any contact with peachey(Ashley), just curious, ever since I sort of bumped into your webpage by accident I haven't had any more blue mondays, thanks you guys, you are the menz!!:P Keep up the good work! I wanted to know if you knew what peachey's new nick is, since I IRC a lot and am from the MA area! Thanks to you, I am a peachey fan, I really think you guys got something there! Well, it's been phun! Please try to respond whenever you have the chance! A loozer xtraordinaire Cain! [I caught her online just a few weeks ago using one of her very old nicks - snowangel. This was on efnet. ]